mutantsushi said:
"AMD will get quite a lot of money for its latest APUs who wont go down in price, this money can then go into R&D"
What is basis for claim that AMD's APU for Sony/MS/Ninty won't go down in price? Fabrication cost is external to AMD, so quite easy to factor price drops into contract... Or by benchmarking to market rates, etc. I mean, you contrast AMD to NVIDIA who insisted on fixed contract price to MS, yet now claim that AMD is doing the same and it's good?
"they gave Sony a mediocore GTX7800 for the PS3 instead its latest GTX8800"
I think that can be translated to Sony bought a mediocre GTX7800 equivalent instead of latest GTX8800. Where is AMD selling their latest high end GPU to ANY console manufacturer? PS4.5 is not impressive in PC space. So why hit NVIDIA for the same? Console manufactuers don't want to buy the latest high end power, and they get exactly what they purchase.
"I think Nvidia will have a troubled future espacially if consoles can replace more and more the PC space with hardware revisions. "
If your fantasy of GPU OEM's magically giving away high end APUs to consoles happened, that scenario might make sense. As is, hardware revisions ala PS4.5 just mean console can match low-mid-end PC GPUs at the point they refresh evey few years, with higher end PC CPUs/GPUs always dominating and low-mid-end GPUs overtaking consoles before they refresh... And PC CPUs tending to consistently dominate console CPUs even at console introduction time, CPU limitations in games are real.
BTW, you seem to have left out NVIDIA's lucrative GPGPU/HPC business, what's up with that?
IF you scale back scope of your claims, then OK, the console business has helped AMD stay in the game. Going forward, it's possible they can compete more with NVIDIA 1:1, not possible if they went under/focused solely on low-end/etc. AMD's ACE approach certainly seems to be worthwhile (most leveraged by Sony), albeit NVIDIA's GMU may well catch up in future. You seem to push your claims into grandiose irrational territory well beyond that though.
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- they wont go down in price because instead the APUs going down in price hey bring never more powerfull APU out like with PS4 Neo. Got it?
- Sony charged 600$ at launch for their console and 900$ in manufactering cost. Sony had enough money and ambition to make PS3 the most powerfull console at the time. the GTX 7800 was top notch until Nvidia revealed the GTX 8800. The XBox 360s GPU on the other hand was a Radeon 1800x-something, but had technology from a 2400x-something by AMD. RSX was a normal GTX 7800.
- PS4 Neo is impresive, the GPU the leaked data showed will be twice as powerfull. Look at Uncharted 4, Driveclub and Bloodborne and other PS4 exclsuives. They look better than every PC game, and playing them in 60fps how would it be not impressive? Sony buys the latest APU from AMD.