@mornelithe. Thanks man.
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Your thoughts on white guilt. | |||
| Yes, we're far too guilt... | 45 | 46.39% | |
| This is rediclous! There is no white guilt... | 23 | 23.71% | |
| I'm a non-white, and fra... | 20 | 20.62% | |
| These people are living d... | 9 | 9.28% | |
| Total: | 97 | ||
@mornelithe. Thanks man.
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| COKTOE said: @mornelithe. Thanks man. |
No problemo
Illusion said:
They're not being oppressed by a 90lb woman, it's the Marxist state, media, education system and the entire ruling class in society that is opporessing any discourse in support of the traditional famiily, white male, Christianity, etc.. These grumblings on the internet are just the start of something that will eventually lead to revolts against the current socialist estabishments in the west. The term Islamaphobe is a derogative term that seeks to lump anybody who has reservations about radical Islam into the same group as Neo-Nazi's. The Socialist Marxists have no desire to understand why so many people (and not just white men, mind you) are having growing concerns about Islamic immigration into their countries... let's just shut them up and censor any discontent. This is classic socialism: government control is the only thing that is needed in life and if they're hearing speech that they don't like let's just label it as bigotry, censor it and make it go away. This is how civilizations fall, we have the opportunity right now to embrace the concerns of the right wing while still maintaining a liberal democracy that is safe for peaceful Muslims. When you tell these concerned people to go off into their corner and shut up you are forcing them out of mainstream society and this will be to the detriment of the establishment. The problem with Socialism/Marxism is that it doesn't know when to let go of control, those in control tend to bring the whole ship down before they cede any ground to their opponents. Yes, there is a Muslim-extremism problem and a clash of cultures in in most of the west. If the left cannot even admit this and allow for free debate, then we are no longer a society that is capable of solving the day-to-day problems that average people face |
Well coming from a wealthy family, I'm certainly not a Marxist. I don't have to work a day in my life if I don't want to.
That said this sounds like you've drank a whole lot of paranoia kool-aid. Pretty much all economies all socialist democracies at this point. Yes, even the US even though they huff and puff about it, that's largely an outdated Cold War-era rally cry. If you have a socialized transportation, police, military, Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid, education, etc. etc. which the US does, that's (gasp!) socialism. Europe, Australia, Japan, Canada are socialist democracies pretty much, those are pretty much all you lead economies aside from Russia and China which do have extensive social programs despite not being democratic per se.
There will always be societal change and there will always be people who think it signals the end of society, but really it ain't gonna happen.
A few minority of Muslims with no real military backing (ISIS could be wiped out in a weekend by the US if they really wanted to do it, they have no air force, a handful of real tanks, and are smaller than the Ethopian army) aren't going to cause the downfall of civilization.
We live in a fairly safe world to be honest, unless Russian/China decide to become hostile to the US, there are no real global threats in the way that World War II was or even more dangerously the Cold War was (which brought the world to the brink of state nuclear conflict). Society isn't going to fall apart.
I think concerns about Muslim extremism are legitimate and that immigration and integration policy needs to be updated but done so in a logical and humane fashion, that said, the overwhelming majority of immigrants are just well ... normal people are aren't religious extremists. Also hopefully the war in Syria is one time occurance and not something that happens every few years, what's happening now is a bit (sadly) unique circumstance.
Soundwave said:
Well coming from a wealthy family, I'm certainly not a Marxist. I don't have to work a day in my life if I don't want to. That said this sounds like you've drank a whole lot of paranoia kool-aid. Pretty much all economies all socialist democracies at this point. Yes, even the US even though they huff and puff about it, that's largely an outdated Cold War-era rally cry. If you have a socialized transportation, police, military, Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid, education, etc. etc. which the US does, that's (gasp!) socialism. Europe, Australia, Japan, Canada are socialist democracies pretty much, those are pretty much all you lead economies aside from Russia and China which do have extensive social programs despite not being democratic per se. There will always be societal change and there will always be people who think it signals the end of society, but really it ain't gonna happen. A few minority of Muslims with no real military backing (ISIS could be wiped out in a weekend by the US if they really wanted to do it, they have no air force, a handful of real tanks, and are smaller than the Ethopian army) aren't going to cause the downfall of civilization. We live in a fairly safe world to be honest, unless Russian/China decide to become hostile to the US, there are no real global threats in the way that World War II was or even more dangerously the Cold War was (which brought the world to the brink of state nuclear conflict). Society isn't going to fall apart. I think concerns about Muslim extremism are legitimate and that immigration and integration policy needs to be updated but done so in a logical and humane fashion, that said, the overwhelming majority of immigrants are just well ... normal people are aren't religious extremists. Also hopefully the war in Syria is one time occurance and not something that happens every few years, what's happening now is a bit (sadly) unique circumstance. |
Tbh, it's a fairly naive hope. Most conflicts in that region appear to last for centuries, if not longer.
mornelithe said:
Tbh, it's a fairly naive hope. Most conflicts in that region appear to last for centuries, if not longer. |
I'm talking specifically about this refugee crisis with its proximity to Europe, it doesn't happen every day and even now the Syrian war does appear to be winding down a bit (doesn't look like Assad is going anywhere so the groups are just going to have to make their peace with that).
Russia/China don't have any incentive to be overly hostile to the US because of global economies, you destroy your own economy if you do that. Americans are the ones who buy half the shit China makes.
Aura7541 said:
You should show Jumpin those two maps again. And I agree with your assessment on white guilt. When it comes to Germany, in particular, the Nazi guilt has been doing more harm than good. However, analyzing how the German government has handled the migrant situation, the authoritarian crackdown on what the media reports is rather reminiscent of the type of censorship Nazi Germany imposed back then. In complete irony, Germany is fulfilling the Horseshoe Theory. |
I'm not going to show any old maps. British government has just released a map of countries that are recommended for the British citizens to go for holidays to. Here it is:

The government discourages people from going to Belgium, Netherlands, France, Spain and Norway. Blimey! Aren't all these countries the multi-culti heavens? How can that be? After all, they are so much better than those stinky homogenous Christian countries!
And as a side note - we are actually very worried in Poland as to how this year is going to turn out. The NATO summit is in Warsaw and the World Youth Days are in Poland as well with the Pope coming. We are affraid that some Muslims may try to come here and strike. Hopefully our secret service is on top of it all, cause this year the threat is real. But hey, we're the safest place in Europe to do it and the Euro 2016 should be the main focus of terrorists this year... Man, this tournament is going to be terrifying.
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I agree with Super. Mostly.
Mixing culture is stupid, but I do enjoy coexisting cultures. I live in Austin, TX, and the Asian community here is huge. I love heading down to the Parmer area and grabbing some Vietnamese or Korean, and occasionally grabbing something from Hanaworld (Asian market) to go home and attempt cooking.
But the thing is I go home. To my little house in white suburbia. Where people now their lawns, care about their curb appeal, and drug deals at least have the decency to go down inside with one customer at a time.
This is a stark contrast to White Trash, where no one mows their plans, there's garbage in the yard, and people smoke meth on their front porches.
It's nothing to do with race, btw, it's that seven letter word: culture. But the thing is you see a lot more black teenagers enjoying ebonic and gang culture than you do Japanese girls. So the cultures promote their own profiling, which becomes confused with their racial identity.
I don't hate people prejudiciously based on their skin color, but I'm not going to lie and tell you I don't automatically dislike some people. If you walk up to me at my job with your phone out and try to speak broken English to me so I can help you find some sale item, just so you can incoherently yell at me when it's out of stock 7 hours into the day when we started with ten of that sale item, then fuck you. But if you walk up to me and ask "Hey, do you have this camera in stock?" and say "Alright, I'll have better luck next time" when I tell you we're out, then we're cool.
That has NOTHING to do with race.
If I go to pick up a couch from Craigslist, and it leads me into a neighborhood where kids are walking around with sagging pants and no shirts, do you really think I'm not going to lock my car doors? And when you roll up to the address, and there's a bunch of junk in the lawn and a guy in a dewrag out front smoking a cigarillo, do you think I'm going to stop and pick up that couch? No, I don't want that couch that's probably been the location of intense drug sex. I'll go buy from the nice Asians up the street from me who kept their couch plastic wrapped.
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| Scisca said:
The government discourages people from going to Belgium, Netherlands, France, Spain and Norway. Blimey! Aren't all these countries the multi-culti heavens? How can that be? After all, they are so much better than those stinky homogenous Christian countries |
There has yet to be a islamic terror attack in Norway, so that's kinda interesting.

| RolStoppable said: I do have a question though. If it is a scheme backed by the rich to get cheap labor, then why is Donald Trump of all people arguing against immigration? |
Very good question. My hunch would be that he now views the Whitehouse as a bigger trophy than his business empire's operational costs.
| MikeRox said: Very good question. My hunch would be that he now views the Whitehouse as a bigger trophy than his business empire's operational costs. |
Politicians say whatever for votes look at David Cameron before he was elected he was all critical of Labour heeding to the EU note he's spearheading the movement to keep the UK in the EU, he slammed tax dodging practices and it turns out he's one of the main offenders in dodging tax. Just because Trump says this and that about stopping immigrants don't expect any change politicians like to go for easy votes and right now it's easy to blame immigrants.