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mornelithe on 24 April 2016
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Soundwave said:
Illusion said:

They're not being oppressed by a 90lb woman, it's the Marxist state, media, education system and the entire ruling class in society that is opporessing any discourse in support of the traditional famiily, white male, Christianity, etc..  These grumblings on the internet are just the start of something that will eventually lead to revolts against the current socialist estabishments in the west.

The term Islamaphobe is a derogative term that seeks to lump anybody who has reservations about radical Islam into the same group as Neo-Nazi's.     The Socialist Marxists have no desire to understand why so many people (and not just white men, mind you) are having growing concerns about Islamic immigration into their countries... let's just shut them up and censor any discontent.  This is classic socialism: government control is the only thing that is needed in life and if they're hearing speech that they don't like let's just label it as bigotry, censor it and make it go away.   This is how civilizations fall, we have the opportunity right now to embrace the concerns of the right wing while still maintaining a liberal democracy that is safe for peaceful Muslims.  When you tell these concerned people to go off into their corner and shut up you are forcing them out of mainstream society and this will be to the detriment of the establishment. 

The problem with Socialism/Marxism is that it doesn't know when to let go of control, those in control tend to bring the whole ship down before they cede any ground to their opponents.  Yes, there is a Muslim-extremism problem and a clash of cultures in in most of the west.  If the left cannot even admit this and allow for free debate, then we are no longer a society that is capable of solving the day-to-day problems that average people face

Well coming from a wealthy family, I'm certainly not a Marxist. I don't have to work a day in my life if I don't want to. 

That said this sounds like you've drank a whole lot of paranoia kool-aid. Pretty much all economies all socialist democracies at this point. Yes, even the US even though they huff and puff about it, that's largely an outdated Cold War-era rally cry. If you have a socialized transportation, police, military, Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid, education, etc. etc. which the US does, that's (gasp!) socialism. Europe, Australia, Japan, Canada are socialist democracies pretty much, those are pretty much all you lead economies aside from Russia and China which do have extensive social programs despite not being democratic per se. 

There will always be societal change and there will always be people who think it signals the end of society, but really it ain't gonna happen. 

A few minority of Muslims with no real military backing (ISIS could be wiped out in a weekend by the US if they really wanted to do it, they have no air force, a handful of real tanks, and are smaller than the Ethopian army) aren't going to cause the downfall of civilization. 

We live in a fairly safe world to be honest, unless Russian/China decide to become hostile to the US, there are no real global threats in the way that World War II was or even more dangerously the Cold War was (which brought the world to the brink of state nuclear conflict). Society isn't going to fall apart. 

I think concerns about Muslim extremism are legitimate and that immigration and integration policy needs to be updated but done so in a logical and humane fashion, that said, the overwhelming majority of immigrants are just well ... normal people are aren't religious extremists. Also hopefully the war in Syria is one time occurance and not something that happens every few years, what's happening now is a bit (sadly) unique circumstance. 

Tbh, it's a fairly naive hope.  Most conflicts in that region appear to last for centuries, if not longer.