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UltimateGamer1982 on 18 April 2016
GribbleGrunger said:

Much more at the link:

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/so...-ne/1100-5437/

Earlier this year, rumors began to fly that Sony would release an upgraded version of the PlayStation 4, a console often called the PS4.5 or the PS4K by fans and press. Today, multiple sources have confirmed for us details of the project, which is internally referred to as the NEO. No price was provided, but previous reports indicate that the NEO would sell at $399. At time of publishing, Sony has not returned our request for comment, but we will update this story if the company responds.

Starting in October, every PS4 game is required to ship with both a “Base Mode” which will run on the currently available PS4 and a “NEO Mode” for use on the new console.

Games running in NEO mode will be able to use the hardware upgrades (and an additional 512 MiB in the memory budget) to offer increased and more stable frame rate and higher visual fidelity, at least when those games run at 1080p on HDTVs. The NEO will also support 4K image output, but games themselves are not required to be 4K native.

The NEO will not supplant the current PS4, but will exist alongside of it and use the same user environment. The PS4 and NEO will use the same PSN store, connect to the same online communities, and offer the same user experience, so expect to see the same cross media bar that you’re used to. Players will be able to retain all of the purchases they made on the PS4.

Sony seems committed to keeping the NEO and the original PS4 player bases connected. As such, there will be no NEO-only games, and Sony will not let developers separate NEO users from original PS4 players while playing on PSN. Likewise, Sony explicitly and repeatedly states that developers cannot offer exclusive gameplay options or special unlockables for NEO players—so don’t expect NEO owners to get a level editor or a special Rocket League car that you won’t have access to on your original PS4.

Specs:

Original PS4
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 1.6 GHz
GPU: AMD GCN, 18 CUs at 800 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 17 GB/s

NEO
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 2.1 GHz
GPU: Improved AMD GCN, 36 CUs at 911 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s

Original ps4 memory needs to be 176 GB/s. Not 17. OP made a typo. 



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GribbleGrunger on 18 April 2016

More from the article I find to be of importance:

In the documents we’ve received, Sony offers suggestions for reaching 4K/UltraHD resolutions for NEO mode game builds, but they're also giving developers a degree of freedom with how to approach this. 4K TV owners should expect the NEO to upscale games to fit the format, but one place Sony is unwilling to bend is on frame rate. Throughout the documents, Sony repeatedly reminds developers that the frame rate of games in NEO Mode must meet or exceed the frame rate of the game on the original PS4 system.



 

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UltimateGamer1982 on 18 April 2016

Still seems too weak for the rumored 4K game playback. I still believe it's the slim and it'll mostly be for movies and run a bit cooler.



melbye on 18 April 2016

I just hope there won't be any Hyrule Warriors Legends situations



HylianYoshi on 18 April 2016

Specs:

Original PS4
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 1.6 GHz
GPU: AMD GCN, 18 CUs at 800 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 17 GB/s

NEO
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 2.1 GHz
GPU: Improved AMD GCN, 36 CUs at 911 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s

Conspiracy theory time.



bet: lost

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ZahaDoom on 18 April 2016
think-man said:
ZahaDoom said:
I think this is a big big mistake if true. I'll probably cancel my PSVR order, and the PS4 would be my first and LAST SONY console.

Why? who is this different from what Nintendo does?

 I'm not game for a two tiered console generation. This is going to leave a bad bad taste in a good 70% of the 40million customers they already suckered into getting the beta ps4.

I haven't owned a Nintendo console since GameCube, well i have a DS, but Nintendo doesn't consider my demographic a customer, they bailed on me I bailed on them.

Same with Microsoft.

 Guess I'll build a new PC and get  Vive for VR.



think-man on 18 April 2016
ZahaDoom said:
think-man said:

Why? who is this different from what Nintendo does?

 I'm not game for a two tiered console generation. This is going to leave a bad bad taste in a good 70% of the 40million customers they already suckered into getting the beta ps4.

I haven't owned a Nintendo console since GameCube, well i have a DS, but Nintendo doesn't consider my demographic a customer, they bailed on my I bailed on them.

Same with Microsoft.

 Guess I'll build a new PC and get  Vive for VR.

It doesn't change a thing, this will probably actually provide Sony with a chance to match the nx in power. I don't see an issue with it, games will still run beautifully on the ps4, and thr original ps4 will probably get a price drop giving more people a chance to buy one.



 

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ZahaDoom on 18 April 2016
Bandorr said:
ZahaDoom said:

 I'm not game for a two tiered console generation. This is going to leave a bad bad taste in a good 70% of the 40million customers they already suckered into getting the beta ps4.

I haven't owned a Nintendo console since GameCube, well i have a DS, but Nintendo doesn't consider my demographic a customer, they bailed on my I bailed on them.

Same with Microsoft.

 Guess I'll build a new PC and get  Vive for VR.

In what way is that bad? Your ps4 can play ps4 games at a regular pace. You lose absolutely nothing. There are no bonus features, no exclusive games, no missing content.

 It creates two classes of citizens. It's a big mistake, and one of the main reason many console gamers are console gamers.

 Do you want to play COD vs someone with a higher framrate or higher resolution? Disparity is disparity anyway you look at it.



Ljink96 on 18 April 2016

The only way I see this working is if the original PS4 model is discontinued. There'd be no reason for the original model if this costs the same and performs much better than the standard PS4. Why'd I buy an old model of a current gen console that costs the same as the new more powerful revision you know?



LudicrousSpeed on 18 April 2016

We've been mislead. There is no PS4.5. This is more like PS4.25....

I would bet this becomes the de facto standard PS4 model. With no Neo only games and no real gameplay o feature enhancements allowed, there's no point in buying one imho. Not that this small boost would really allow for anything dramatically more advanced.

Meh.