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No. Overuse of antibiotics is dangerous; it breeds resistant super-bacteria like MRSA.

Too many idiots already take antibiotics for the common cold or the flu.



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The problem is shortage of doctors. My wife developed pneumonia March 15th or so, it took more than 2 weeks to see her own doctor. Before that we sat in the ER waiting room for 3 hours for a 30 second evaluation to end up with the usual antibiotics, they didn't do anything for having trouble with breathing.
She still has problems with a heavy chest feeling and has now finally got an appointment for a specialist May 20th.

Pharmacists could make that 30 second judgment too. It's always the same, try antibiotics first, come back if it doesn't get better.



theprof00 said:
vivster said:

No, people are idiots. Healthcare should be available to everyone so that doctors can diagnose them properly and prescribe the drugs. It's not even about abusing them but the loads of people that will kill themselves because they have no idea how to diagnose correctly or do not care which dose to take.

Then again, we might be a lot better off with stupid people killing themselves. Soooo... hell yeah strong prescription drugs should be available to anyone!

well supposedly, in other countries antibiotics are available over the counter.

I think such a move would probably save people a lot of time and money.

 

As others have stated that's a terrible idea. People take antibiotics for everything already and it's just speeding up the growth of virus'

Not to mention people would have no idea about dosages, or the side affects of mixing various pharmaceuticals together. 



Normchacho said:
No, people are over medicated as it is.

agreed



No. People may think what's wrong with them and how to fix it and sometimes they're right, but a lot of times people are also wrong. If you're wrong, it can be dangerous. And people also use medicine way too much, and this wouldn't change it for the better for sure.

curl-6 said:

No. Overuse of antibiotics is dangerous; it breeds resistant super-bacteria like MRSA.

Too many idiots already take antibiotics for the common cold or the flu.

Also this.



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Freedom first, thus of course government should prohibit voluntary trade and decision making of free individuals.



Antibiotic resistance is already a big enough problem as it is. It should and needs to be regulated more, not less. Most people know jack about how the human body works and what's wrong with them. I study Biology in university, and I know that I know way too little to diagnose myself properly; I don't trust anyone else with no education on the matter to have the freedom of taking antibiotics whenever they want.



 

theprof00 said:
vivster said:

No, people are idiots. Healthcare should be available to everyone so that doctors can diagnose them properly and prescribe the drugs. It's not even about abusing them but the loads of people that will kill themselves because they have no idea how to diagnose correctly or do not care which dose to take.

Then again, we might be a lot better off with stupid people killing themselves. Soooo... hell yeah strong prescription drugs should be available to anyone!

well supposedly, in other countries antibiotics are available over the counter.

I think such a move would probably save people a lot of time and money.

The problem, especially with giving out antibiotics over the counter is that people will take it too often and not over long enough time periods.

This is a serious problem, as it breeds multiresistant bacteria cultures. This is a thing that is already happening because we feed antibiotics to our fatlings preemtively in order to save, you guessed it, time and money. These anti biotics get into the food chain with the meat as well. There's already several Antibiotics that have lost their effect almost completey because of over the counter antibiotics and animal antibiotics.

The problem is that Antibiotics are finite. We only know so many of them. If we reach the day when all our Antibiotics are failing we will be thrown back into the middle ages medicinally, because what it now a simple little infection, will kill you without them.

The Ideal procedure would actually be to test every singe patient for their specific gem stem and prescibe antibiotics based on that. The fact that your doctor actually tested you probably means that he is a very good, responsible Doctor. Way too many Doctors prescrible antibiotics too lightly.

Antibiotics are one of the most precious recurces we have right now, and saving you half an hour of your time and twenty bucks is not worth risking the health of millions, even if it might slightly inconvinience you right now.



Not only would people hurt themselves (and possibly others), but it would lead to excessive use of antibiotics, which hurts everyone, because it increases chances that bacterial strains develop resistance. (Granted, the excessive use of antibiotics in agriculture is a much bigger contributor to the increasing amount of resistant bacterial straints.)



curl-6 said:

No. Overuse of antibiotics is dangerous; it breeds resistant super-bacteria like MRSA.

Too many idiots already take antibiotics for the common cold or the flu.

Holy fudge. How stupid are people? At least people should know that viral diseases can't be cured by antibiotics...

I mean, to use antibiotics for such an everyday disease is in itself idiotic, but do people not know that the common cold and the flu are caused by viruses so antibiotics will do jack shit to help them and will instead weaken their own immune system? SMFH