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Goodnightmoon on 05 April 2016
JRPGfan said:

Graphics still look so damn dated...
I really wish nintendo had done better when it comes to how this game looks.

I know they did a small bit of polishing to get it looking a tiny bit better, but it just not up to par with todays standards.

 

*edit: looked at youtube comments afterwards:

"In so many ways, this looks like a game lost in time; and not in the good way. It's just all so dated looking, from the presentation and graphics to the HUD/GUI elements and beyond. It's like the game hasn't really moved on from the N64 era, as if presentation hasn't evolved in the last 20 years."

"Some weakass textures"

"I wouldn't say Star Fox are back in action. This is around the fifth version of the first game. Not quite the full team either. It's missing the main female character and member of Star Fox team, Krystal."

"Krystal DLC when?"

 We all know the game has not amazing graphics, it has been almosta year with the same shit over and over, and always ignoring the fact that is running at 60fps on 2 screens.

What about the majority of good comments? Why are you even mentioning them to begging with? All games have some bad coments on youtube, the dislike bars is quite short though.

Sure is not on the level of graphics today but how is this a bad looking game? Corneria feels off but the rest looks nice.

   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbm3ylIlFKw



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Goodnightmoon on 05 April 2016
Qwark said:
JRPGfan said:

Graphics still look so damn dated...
I really wish nintendo had done better when it comes to how this game looks.

I know they did a small bit of polishing to get it looking a tiny bit better, but it just not up to par with todays standards.

 

*edit: looked at youtube comments afterwards:

"In so many ways, this looks like a game lost in time; and not in the good way. It's just all so dated looking, from the presentation and graphics to the HUD/GUI elements and beyond. It's like the game hasn't really moved on from the N64 era, as if presentation hasn't evolved in the last 20 years."

"Some weakass textures"

"I wouldn't say Star Fox are back in action. This is around the fifth version of the first game. Not quite the full team either. It's missing the main female character and member of Star Fox team, Krystal."

"Krystal DLC when?"

Oh well you can also buy Ratchet and Clank for $40. That game doesn't appear lost in time in any way. Starfox will be a great game for those who love it. But technically it might not be very impressive  (even for Wii U). As long as the gameplay is tight and there is enough content U am sure the fans are happy. Nintendo is also happy since they could cut on the budget which means bigger profits.

Its quite fun the hyprocrisy here.

Ratchet and clank is the same exact game than 15 years ago, but now it has full 2016 level of graphics, the same exact gameplay, the same exact stages, all the same but the graphics look new so people say it doesnt feel out of time.

Now SF0 has outdated graphics, but it has a completely new control system that radically changes the gameplay and even if its close to a reboot it hast new stages, new bosses, new level design, new vehicles etc, so the game is mostly new but it looks old so people says it feels out of time.

At the end is all about looks, I've been saying this for years, gaming comunity is superficial in extremis. 

BTW Star Fox is also a non full priced release.



Volterra_90 on 05 April 2016
Goodnightmoon said:

Its quite fun the hyprocrisy here.

Ratchet and clank is the same exact game than 15 years ago, but now it has full 2016 level of graphics, the same exact gameplay, the same exact stages, all the same but the graphics look new so it doest feel out of time.

Nw SF0 has outdated graphics, but it has a completely new control system that radically changes the gameplay and even if its close to a reboot it hast new stages, new bosses, new level design, new vehicles etc, so the game is mostly new but it looks old so its a game out of time.

At the end is all about looks, I've been saying this for years, gaming comunity is superficial in extremis. 

BTW Star Fox is also a non full priced release.

Gaming community nowadays eats with their eyes. That's a fact. I can find some examples of great gaming community reaction to games in which any gameplay has been shown. But they looked good. It seems that's enough.



MegaDrive08 on 05 April 2016

Id take this over most big games that are out nowadays, this is a proper video game.



 

Miyamotoo on 05 April 2016

Pre Ordered long time ago.



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Goodnightmoon on 05 April 2016
Volterra_90 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Its quite fun the hyprocrisy here.

Ratchet and clank is the same exact game than 15 years ago, but now it has full 2016 level of graphics, the same exact gameplay, the same exact stages, all the same but the graphics look new so it doest feel out of time.

Nw SF0 has outdated graphics, but it has a completely new control system that radically changes the gameplay and even if its close to a reboot it hast new stages, new bosses, new level design, new vehicles etc, so the game is mostly new but it looks old so its a game out of time.

At the end is all about looks, I've been saying this for years, gaming comunity is superficial in extremis. 

BTW Star Fox is also a non full priced release.

Gaming community nowadays eats with their eyes. That's a fact. I can find some examples of great gaming community reaction to games in which any gameplay has been shown. But they looked good. It seems that's enough.

I can also find many many examples, its a very common thing this days sadly. Its hilarious when a lot of those games end up being trash though



Volterra_90 on 05 April 2016
Goodnightmoon said:

I can also find many many examples, its a very common thing this days sadly. Its hilarious when a lot of those games end up being trash though

Oh, I'm really happy when that happens :P. And I'm really happy when the opposite happens too. Not too good-looking games turning out to be amazing. There's too much things to take into account talking about games, and while you objectively can say that the graphics are not good with a factual analysis, that's not just everything that should be discused. What can be said about this game, is that they had to sacriphice graphics in favour of 60fps dual-screen gameplay. Time will tell if it's worthy. At least is a different controls scheme. I'm always in about trying different things.



Qwark on 05 April 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Qwark said:

Oh well you can also buy Ratchet and Clank for $40. That game doesn't appear lost in time in any way. Starfox will be a great game for those who love it. But technically it might not be very impressive  (even for Wii U). As long as the gameplay is tight and there is enough content U am sure the fans are happy. Nintendo is also happy since they could cut on the budget which means bigger profits.

Its quite fun the hyprocrisy here.

Ratchet and clank is the same exact game than 15 years ago, but now it has full 2016 level of graphics, the same exact gameplay, the same exact stages, all the same but the graphics look new so people say it doesnt feel out of time.

Now SF0 has outdated graphics, but it has a completely new control system that radically changes the gameplay and even if its close to a reboot it hast new stages, new bosses, new level design, new vehicles etc, so the game is mostly new but it looks old so people says it feels out of time.

At the end is all about looks, I've been saying this for years, gaming comunity is superficial in extremis. 

BTW Star Fox is also a non full priced release.

If you read the previews the game plays like the future series, not the originals so it's a lot tighter. It's also a reimagination of the first, but it's not am exact copy, there are plenty of new weapons in the game. Weapons in R&C are very important for the gameplay. There are different cutscenes and probably a few different enemies too. And yes graphics are important, imagine Uncharted 4 in 16 bit graphics.

 

Copied from Insomniac 

Ratchet & Clank blasts onto PlayStation 4 for the first time, with a new game based on elements from the original Ratchet & Clank (PS2). Ratchet & Clank (PS4) re-imagines the characters’ origin stories and modernizes the original gameplay. Featuring all-new boss fights, several new planets, new flight sequences, and much more – with completely new visuals constructed to take advantage of the power of the PS4



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Goodnightmoon on 05 April 2016
Qwark said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Its quite fun the hyprocrisy here.

Ratchet and clank is the same exact game than 15 years ago, but now it has full 2016 level of graphics, the same exact gameplay, the same exact stages, all the same but the graphics look new so people say it doesnt feel out of time.

Now SF0 has outdated graphics, but it has a completely new control system that radically changes the gameplay and even if its close to a reboot it hast new stages, new bosses, new level design, new vehicles etc, so the game is mostly new but it looks old so people says it feels out of time.

At the end is all about looks, I've been saying this for years, gaming comunity is superficial in extremis. 

BTW Star Fox is also a non full priced release.

If you read the previews the game plays like the future series, not the originals so it's a lot tighter. It's also a reimagination of the first, but it's not am exact copy, there are plenty of new weapons in the game. Weapons in R&C are very important for the gameplay. There are different cutscenes and probably a few different enemies too. And yes graphics are important, imagine Uncharted 4 in 16 bit graphics.

 

Copied from Insomniac 

Ratchet & Clank blasts onto PlayStation 4 for the first time, with a new game based on elements from the original Ratchet & Clank (PS2). Ratchet & Clank (PS4) re-imagines the characters’ origin stories and modernizes the original gameplay. Featuring all-new boss fights, several new planets, new flight sequences, and much more – with completely new visuals constructed to take advantage of the power of the PS4

It may not be 100% the same, one would expect gameplay improvements and new details 15 years after. But the thing is, SF0 in comparison is more different from Lylat Wars than this new R&C from the original, yet is the later the one that is praised for feeling modern and the other downplayed for being the same, when is not. Of course this judgement comes from people watching videos in youtube, lets see what people thinks once they play it.

And yes graphics matter but we are talking about a game that is one gen outdated in that regard, is not such a big deal when you take in count the limitations of the hardware to beggin with.



Volterra_90 on 05 April 2016
Qwark said:

If you read the previews the game plays like the future series, not the originals so it's a lot tighter. It's also a reimagination of the first, but it's not am exact copy, there are plenty of new weapons in the game. Weapons in R&C are very important for the gameplay. There are different cutscenes and probably a few different enemies too. And yes graphics are important, imagine Uncharted 4 in 16 bit graphics.

I'm not saying they're not important, but a game is a sum of its parts, and graphics are just one thing to notice. It's not everything a game is. And I think it could be said that a... really worrying part of the gaming community are just convinced with looks. That's why some games are announced with an astonishing CGI trailer without showing actual gameplay. I really can't dig this approach. They can't convince me just with that.