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LivingMetal said:
AEGRO said:
If you own a big screen TV and cant see the difference between 720p and 1080p, i would say that you are lying.

I think most of us here have figured out by now that this thread was created to justify the denial of 1080p and the justifcation of settling for 720p when clearly there are better options.

The logical rebuttal to this BS is why would you settle for 1080p when you can have higher resolutions elsewhere? Oh, that's right, "justification" of some sort. LOL.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
LivingMetal said:

I think most of us here have figured out by now that this thread was created to justify the denial of 1080p and the justifcation of settling for 720p when clearly there are better options.

The logical rebuttal to this BS is why would you settle for 1080p when you can have higher resolutions elsewhere? Oh, that's right, "justification" of some sort. LOL.

And I'm all for utilizing higher resolutions when the resources and talent are avaliable to do so.  4k televisions are being used as PC monitors for PC gaming.  But I believe the content here are in regards to console gaming according tothe text of the OP.  But how many times we're heard from diehard Xbox supporters who excuses the 720p of an Xbox One version of a game when the PS4 version outputs 1080p?  Now, that's not to say that 720p is bad by any means because I stated in my original post that I'd still game with a 480i resolution because it is about the games.  But if technology wasn't pushed, we'd not have 720p much less 1080p.  Now it you're a diehard Nintendo fan, buying a Nintendo console just for the Nintendo franchise titles that alone is more than worth buying a Nintendo console.  And if you'd prefer to buy a mulit-platform title those resolution is 720p for thatsame console while the other versions are of higher resolution, that's fine, too.  I can safely assume that the game will look very nice in 720p.  It's "acceptable."  But if developers have the talent and resources to push a game out in 1080p while the consumers have the resources to financially back those efforts, we allwin, and we all benefit.  If some want to miss out on this by settling and purposely not looking forward, their loss.



Yeah it's acceptable to me. I really don't care about visuals too much as long as the game is playable.



Yeah, it's acceptable. But I expect that the next gen will achieve 1080/60fps easily. Let's see.



LivingMetal said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

The logical rebuttal to this BS is why would you settle for 1080p when you can have higher resolutions elsewhere? Oh, that's right, "justification" of some sort. LOL.

And I'm all for utilizing higher resolutions when the resources and talent are avaliable to do so.  4k televisions are being used as PC monitors for PC gaming.  But I believe the content here are in regards to console gaming according tothe text of the OP.  But how many times we're heard from diehard Xbox supporters who excuses the 720p of an Xbox One version of a game when the PS4 version outputs 1080p?  Now, that's not to say that 720p is bad by any means because I stated in my original post that I'd still game with a 480i resolution because it is about the games.  But if technology wasn't pushed, we'd not have 720p much less 1080p.  Now it you're a diehard Nintendo fan, buying a Nintendo console just for the Nintendo franchise titles that alone is more than worth buying a Nintendo console.  And if you'd prefer to buy a mulit-platform title those resolution is 720p for thatsame console while the other versions are of higher resolution, that's fine, too.  I can safely assume that the game will look very nice in 720p.  It's "acceptable."  But if developers have the talent and resources to push a game out in 1080p while the consumers have the resources to financially back those efforts, we allwin, and we all benefit.  If some want to miss out on this by settling and purposely not looking forward, their loss.

So then those Xbox owners are no different than PS4 owners settling for 1080p when better resolutions are possible elsewhere. I guess they are purposely not looking forward or whatever.

Also, what are all these games that are 1080 on PS4 and 720 on Xbone? I can recall three old games. But you harp on it as if its an extremely common gap. Most Xbone games actually are 1080p. And the gap is typically 1080/900p.

Your mistake is assuming resolution is the only thing that represents "thinking forward". A game like Quantum Break looks better than a vast majority of 1080p games and does incredible things with animations and effects. Things that push limits and make it unique. Should they have toned those down so the game could hit a constant and official 1080p resolution? Yikes. Is Madden 16 a better technical showcase because its 1080p?

I assume you wont be buying Uncharted 4 since the MP is "only" 900p. Or will you have "justifications" allowing you as a consumer to support such an apparently backwards thinking effort? That doesn't just go to you but anyo e who shares that bizarre way of thinking.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
LivingMetal said:

And I'm all for utilizing higher resolutions when the resources and talent are avaliable to do so.  4k televisions are being used as PC monitors for PC gaming.  But I believe the content here are in regards to console gaming according tothe text of the OP.  But how many times we're heard from diehard Xbox supporters who excuses the 720p of an Xbox One version of a game when the PS4 version outputs 1080p?  Now, that's not to say that 720p is bad by any means because I stated in my original post that I'd still game with a 480i resolution because it is about the games.  But if technology wasn't pushed, we'd not have 720p much less 1080p.  Now it you're a diehard Nintendo fan, buying a Nintendo console just for the Nintendo franchise titles that alone is more than worth buying a Nintendo console.  And if you'd prefer to buy a mulit-platform title those resolution is 720p for thatsame console while the other versions are of higher resolution, that's fine, too.  I can safely assume that the game will look very nice in 720p.  It's "acceptable."  But if developers have the talent and resources to push a game out in 1080p while the consumers have the resources to financially back those efforts, we allwin, and we all benefit.  If some want to miss out on this by settling and purposely not looking forward, their loss.

So then those Xbox owners are no different than PS4 owners settling for 1080p when better resolutions are possible elsewhere. I guess they are purposely not looking forward or whatever.

Also, what are all these games that are 1080 on PS4 and 720 on Xbone? I can recall three old games. But you harp on it as if its an extremely common gap. Most Xbone games actually are 1080p. And the gap is typically 1080/900p.

Your mistake is assuming resolution is the only thing that represents "thinking forward". A game like Quantum Break looks better than a vast majority of 1080p games and does incredible things with animations and effects. Things that push limits and make it unique. Should they have toned those down so the game could hit a constant and official 1080p resolution? Yikes. Is Madden 16 a better technical showcase because its 1080p?

I assume you wont be buying Uncharted 4 since the MP is "only" 900p. Or will you have "justifications" allowing you as a consumer to support such an apparently backwards thinking effort? That doesn't just go to you but anyo e who shares that bizarre way of thinking.

Not neccessarily.  If you want to group all Xbox owner as one group and the same with PS4 owners, go right ahead.  You're assuming I am which I'm not which in turn makes your argument flawed at best.  But for those particular PS4 owners, yes, they are no better than those particular Xbox owners.  So that I agree with, and again, I'm not grouping all owners of a particular console in one mass broad stroke group.  That's your first mistake.

Your second mistake is that YOU are assuming that I'm assuming that "resolution is the only thing that represents 'thinking forward.'"  I never said it was the only thing.  That was YOUR aasumption.  But can you imagine how even more beautiful Quantum Break would look if it were rendered in 1080p with all effects intacted?  Even more awesomeness!  Again, not saying 720p is bad by any means.  But when you have a multi-platform title with a version that's rendered in 1080p with effects that are just as good if not better than its 720p counterpart, more power (literally as well as figuratively) to the purchaser of the 1080p version.

And your third mistake is that I WILL be buying Uncharted 4, but NOT for the multi-player.  So regardless on how the multi-plaYer pans out, it's a non-issue with me no matter how you want to slice your reasoning correct or incorrect.  But is it arguable to say that Uncharted 4 mulit-player at 900p will look better than Quantum Break 720p single player?  If so then, UH-OH!!!

;)



LudicrousSpeed said:
LivingMetal said:

I think most of us here have figured out by now that this thread was created to justify the denial of 1080p and the justifcation of settling for 720p when clearly there are better options.

The logical rebuttal to this BS is why would you settle for 1080p when you can have higher resolutions elsewhere? Oh, that's right, "justification" of some sort. LOL.

I can game at 92" at 1080p, have been since 2007. However a 92" 4K TV or 4K projector are still firmly out of my price range. So nope, can't have higher resolutions yet at that image size. Kinda pointless to double the resolution while settling for a smaller image size :/

1080p has been the standard for quite a while now, 4K is just starting and the format for HDR hasn't even been decided yet. Dolby Vision and HDR 10 are still competing to become the standard. Are there even any PC games yet that output HDR? Most games have been using FP16 for years internally, yet scale it down to 8 bit for output.



Back when [5 years ago] TVs were available in both reso's , most geek sites said your eye really can't tell the difference for the most part. Unless you were sitting 3 feet away from a larger than 50" screen. Mostly a console fanboy bragging point really.



LivingMetal said:

Not neccessarily.  If you want to group all Xbox owner as one group and the same with PS4 owners, go right ahead.  You're assuming I am which I'm not which in turn makes your argument flawed at best.  But for those particular PS4 owners, yes, they are no better than those particular Xbox owners.  So that I agree with, and again, I'm not grouping all owners of a particular console in one mass broad stroke group.  That's your first mistake.


Why would I be assuming we're talking about all console owners when you said "diehard Xbox supporters"? The natural assumption is we're talking about diehard Xbox and PS supporters. Whatever that means, anyway. You don't have to be a "diehard" supporter of either platform to not give a rats ass about resolution. I didn't paint anyone with a broad stroke, but you did by assuming anyone who is ok with a lower resolution must be a "diehard supporter" of Xbox. Hope that helps.

LivingMetal said:

Your second mistake is that YOU are assuming that I'm assuming that "resolution is the only thing that represents 'thinking forward.'"  I never said it was the only thing.  That was YOUR aasumption.  But can you imagine how even more beautiful Quantum Break would look if it were rendered in 1080p with all effects intacted?  Even more awesomeness!  Again, not saying 720p is bad by any means.  But when you have a multi-platform title with a version that's rendered in 1080p with effects that are just as good if not better than its 720p counterpart, more power (literally as well as figuratively) to the purchaser of the 1080p version.

I can't read your mind unfortunately, I can only base responses off what you have posted. "purposely not looking forward" by not supporting a platform with more 1080p games reads like resolution is what is pushing the industry forward. Otherwise, that comment makes no sense whatsoever. You can backpedal all you want, it won't change that. Also, you're still carrying on about 720p. I'm still waiting for this list of games that are 1080p on PS4 and 720p on Xbone. Again, I can only reply based on your posts, and based on your posts there must be an extremely large list of games that are 1080p on PS4 but had to go down to 720p on Xbone. Otherwise you'd be making a big stink over nothing. Please confirm.

LivingMetal said:

And your third mistake is that I WILL be buying Uncharted 4, but NOT for the multi-player.  So regardless on how the multi-plaYer pans out, it's a non-issue with me no matter how you want to slice your reasoning correct or incorrect.  But is it arguable to say that Uncharted 4 mulit-player at 900p will look better than Quantum Break 720p single player?  If so then, UH-OH!!!

;)

Cool, so you're buying Uncharted 4 because of "justifications". Exactly as I thought. No point in me replying again ;)



I would prefer all games running 720p/60fps than what we have now. 720p looks fine in most cases and 60fps makes the gameplay a lot better, just play Mario Kart 8 or Super Mario 3D World and you can confirm it. Also, XOne and PS4 could handle most of its games at 60fps if they were 720p and would probably be able to use some AA method to get a better image.