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Nintendo always denies Nikkei reports. Nothing to see here.



                
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Given the shortages Japan faced, denial of halting production in 2016 may well be true. Could easily have been halted in 2015 :p



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Wright said:
RolStoppable said:

This is why. 

 

Oddly enough, Dark Souls 2 is the worst Soul-esque game of the franchise.

 

As for the OP, I'd love for a Dead Rising in the vein of Chop till you drop to be released on a Nintendo console. I mean, it was inferior to the original Dead Rising, but still a good fun nonetheless, plus exclusive extras.

 

Hiku said:
bigtakilla said:

And notice this persons mind didn't change after Nintendo released their statement. ALso, we have to assume this person is going to actually go through with not buying the product, how many times have you seen on this website where someone said they had no interest or didn't want a product later to write in a discussion "well I just got a _____, what games do you recommend". Happens all the time.

Because this person is aware of Nintendo's track record of falsly denying these reports, as it was mentioned in the video they replied to. And they made a few comments about it as well.



And yeah, some people don't go through with what they say. And some people do. We can't assume that every single person is lying. Neither can Nintendo, and their PR team wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't try to quell some of the worries and anger.

Also, from what I now read, Nintendo didn't actually deny this report from Nikkei. They only said that Nikkei's information didn't come from them (they also said that when Nikkei reported about the 3DS XL), and that “From the next quarter and thereafter as well, production [of the Wii U] is scheduled to continue.”
So by being vague, it sounds like they're indirectly denying it, which is how many people percieved it.

But trying to quell the worries and anger with disception will only lead to mistrust in the end (unless of course the rumor IS false). They have far more to lose by denying it and production actually end, than it would to just not say anything. People who initially didn't care about the Nikkei rumor aren't going to appreciate knowing Nintendo is lying to sell a few consoles, and if those people who were worried wind up buying a Wii U due to Nintendo's statement, how pissed are they going to be if production does end and the online servers are shut down in the near future? 

I know I for one am getting pretty exhausted of the PR spins, the bullshit, and the flat out lies of this generation from Nintendo. When I go to a forum discussing them, I can pretty much assume the worst outcome is the one I know is going to happen with the company. How many people are they going to lose/have they lost because of that? 

How many people thanks to this generation alone are going to take a wait and see approach to NX? FAR more than people who are worried about the end of production rumor from Nekkei. 



This is dancing around the truth.

Imagine your girlfriend comes up to you

Girlfriend: I heard you've been cheating on me! And you're planning to leave me!

You: Well that didn't come from me. And I haven't cheated on you in the last 4 months at least and I don't have any immediate plans to leave you.  

Like ... lol ... you would get slapped in the face if you said this, this isn't a denial.



Hiku said:
bigtakilla said:

But trying to quell the worries and anger with disception will only lead to mistrust in the end (unless of course the rumor IS false). They have far more to lose by denying it and production actually end, than it would to just not say anything. People who initially didn't care about the Nikkei rumor aren't going to appreciate knowing Nintendo is lying to sell a few consoles, and if those people who were worried wind up buying a Wii U due to Nintendo's statement, how pissed are they going to be if production does end and the online servers are shut down in the near future? 

I know I for one am getting pretty exhausted of the PR spins, the bullshit, and the flat out lies of this generation from Nintendo. When I go to a forum discussing them, I can pretty much assume the worst outcome is the one I know is going to happen with the company. How many people are they going to lose/have they lost because of that? 

How many people thanks to this generation alone are going to take a wait and see approach to NX? FAR more than people who are worried about the end of production rumor from Nekkei. 

Well, this strategy has probably worked out for them in the past, or else they probably wouldn't keep doing it. They're not likely expecting to persuade the well informed audience, such as people who discuss it at length on forums and do their research, but are likely targetting the people who take announcements like that for face value. It's from Nintendo = true. That's unfortunitely how many people react, and never give it a second thought. (Not just regarding Nintendo.)
As for the ones who are more well informed and do research about similar situations in the past, they should be aware that these things happen with all companies, and you have to learn how to discern what is fact from what isn't, and what seems questionable and what seems reliable. If Nintendo announce their sold through numbers for WiiU, I have no reason to doubt them. It's when the PR is vague that you have to suspect there's a reason behind it. And some times it's just straight up lies, unfortunately. But it's also understandable at times. If they plan to announce a certain game on a certain day, and you ask them if the game is being made a few days earlier, they will deny it, or say "we currently have no plans for that." Understandable, as their plans cant get ruined as soon as any journalist asks about it.
That kinda makes me curious if they have any explanation for that. Like, "we currently have no plans for it because it's already set in motion. It's no longer just a plan." Many companies use that term as a deception, so I wonder if everyone uses that specific term because there's a way to claim that it isn't a lie

But if you look at how Nintendo have responded to Nikkei's reports, I've noticed that they may not have actually lied in the situations I've reviewed. At least in this latest case, and the report on the 3DS XL, they said things like "this information didn't come from us (Nintendo)" and "it's just speculation". Reliable information can be obtained from other sources, such as hardware manufacturers, but if the information is not oficially from Nintendo, I guess they can deem it as not trustworthy to 100%, and therefore speculatory. I don't know.

Who would be informed enough to know the Wii U is ending, and that Nintendo is denying it without being a bit informed (outside japan)?

While true, it may not be a straight up lie, but it's still purposeful disception. And it's something they better stray away from because people are getting sick of it.



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Hiku said:
bigtakilla said:

Who would be informed enough to know the Wii U is ending, and that Nintendo is denying it without being a bit informed (outside japan)?

While true, it may not be a straight up lie, but it's still purposeful disception. And it's something they better stray away from because people are getting sick of it.

Well I can only make guesses about who the info may come from if not from Nintendo, but for example the companies that supply Nintendo with the hardware inside the system. If the processor manufcturer for example has been informed from Nintendo that "we will no longer be needing any more of your processors after July this year", people would naturally come to the conclusion that they are ceasing production of the whole console.
It could also be the case of a leak from inside of Nintendo's own staff, but that Nintendo don't regard leaks as "coming from us" because they're not even sure if it was leaked from their own company or not.

And yeah, while people can't later accuse them of straight up lying, it is written with the intent to decieve. This is pretty standard corporate PR. Like I said before, Sony, Microsoft, Square Enic, etc everyone does it when they feel they need to. And I guess most people in the industry are used to it, so they don't even get upset (or surprised) when it turns out to be a "lie".
But the more we read them, the more we're able to tell the difference between what's credible or even what should be taken as a fact, and what seems suspicious and we should be cautious to believe what the statment is implying.
For exaple, people not used to these things, when they heard that "Nintendo denied Nikkei's report" their reaction is just "Thank God!" and they leave it at that.
My reaction to hearing that was that I want to read the statement myself.
When Nintendo now didn't straight up say that Nikkei were wrong, and even used the same wording as they did when Nikkei reported on the 3DS XL "that information didn't come from us", what does that tell you?
For me, I'm thinking that Nikkei are once again correct. I wouldn't bet my life savings on it, but I'm fairly convinced that's what's going on.

Could be, and if so I would say again another shitty move by Nintendo.  Hopefully they weren't pulling the PR bullshit and the Wii U is just going to continue on. Which also could be the case. 



I see denial, and not exactly coming from Nintendo...



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So looking at Media Create sales after one week of above average supply for the Pokken bundle, looks like Wii U "shortage" levels are back in Japan as the system sold sub-5000 again this week.

Nintendo is full of crap on this IMO. They are clearly depleting inventory stock, you don't have shortages of a 3+ year old system going on now for almost 3 straight months. They are not manufacturing many/any of these systems, IMO they basically have ordered most/all of the components and are slowly just assembling those remaining units together, hence Nintendo technically isn't lying about what they're saying but they also are not telling the full truth.