What I am missing here is the D-pad. I skipped the 3DS due to the badly placed Dpad, and now this image shows no Dpad...
Soundwave said:
I don't think that will deter the continued erosion of the traditional handheld market. Nintendo's tried it this gen with cheap(er) 3DS models and dramatic price cuts ... hasn't stopped them from losing a lot of customers and likely a generation of kids. The problem is parents aren't stupid ... a 3DS is not "cheap" when the games are $40 a pop versus free on a tablet/smartphone, and nowadays tablets themselves can be had for $150 and do 50x more than a DS/3DS does. Nintendo needs a dramatic shake up and a new type of product that speaks a new "language" IMO. If they keep doing the same ol, same ol (basically just a new 3DS/DS with better but still outdated graphics) ... they're just spinning their wheels in the mud going nowhere. The Vita was the same formula the 80 million selling PSP was. Nintendo should be wary of "formulas". There is no formula when you have a disruptive force like smartphone/tablet gaming, it's like fighting crime against the Joker and trying to do everything by the book. |
I agree they should change their business model, that's why I'm suggesting, for instance, shorter life cycles. But they shouldn't go for higher price tags.
One of the main reasons why parents are more inclined to buy a tablets/smatphones rahter than handhelds is beacuse those devices are percieved as something useful -for learning, browsing, reading, etc- rather than just game dedicated devices. For the same price the parent will always prefer the tablet, it has the be kid the one that pushes towards the handheld. Given this situation, the lower is price the higher is the chance for the kid to convince his parents. If you want to go for higher hardware prices, imo, you should also look for a different target.
freebs2 said:
I agree they should change their business model, that's why I'm suggesting, for instance, shorter life cycles. But they shouldn't go for higher price tags. One of the main reasons why parents are more inclined to buy a tablets/smatphones rahter than handhelds is beacuse those devices are percieved as something useful -for learning, browsing, reading, etc- rather than just game dedicated devices. For the same price the parent will always prefer the tablet, it has the be kid the one that pushes towards the handheld. Given this situation, the lower is price the higher is the chance for the kid to convince his parents. If you want to go for higher hardware prices, imo, you should also look for a different target. |
I don't think Nintendo is going to win this arguement, in fact looking at declining 3DS sales particularily in the West where they've completely fallen off a cliff, there's ample evidence to suggest kids don't care that much.
When my little nieces/nephews come over to my house they always ask to play with my iPad first, not the 3DS. It's not the adults that are forcing anything on them.
In this environment I think Nintendo needs to redefine hardware period and offer experiences the tablet cannot. That's where I think a hybrid machine that is capable of console like experiences on the go and can beam those to a TV or even other displays easily with mobility would be something legitimately new.
Regarding the controller itself ....
The problem I have with it is I think it's more flash over function. Yes it looks interesting, but the Wii U tablet proved pretty conclusively that the touch panel is largely useless because normal human beings can't look at a TV display and a controller screen down by their waist at the same time.
Which means the point of a screen is largely .... well pointless. It doesn't change the game play in any huge way from a regular $30 controller in the vast majority of games.
I don't see how something like this wouldn't be the most expensive controller made, moreso than the Wii U tablet even. That's a highly custom LCD display in a shape no one else but Nintendo would order, so you're probably talking $100 for the controller itself, and you want a high end chipset on top of that for the console? Say hello to a $400 launch price tag.
Also I mean your hand would still obscure a large chunk of the display, meaning there's processing power/pixels draw being wasted for basically no reason. It's more flash than function.
That said I wouldn't be surprised at all if Nintendo is basically doing exactly this, lol.
I think the controller could be amazing for customization of inputs. It could be an NES pad, a Wii Mote or something totally new and unique for new games. It could become guitar strings, a slingshot, or just three big buttons if appropriate. Combined with it's state-of-the-art look it could be quite impressive. Assuming the "buttons" actually work well in place of real ones.
There is also the potential for fantastic local or local+online multiplayer if you can have more than one of these things connected at once, or if like I said above the NX portable is essentially the same as this device.
I agree the cost could potentially make it more of a drawback than a benefit, and I'd rather money be spent on processing power. If the system it comes with has impressive power, the controller could be interesting.

Soundwave said:
I don't think Nintendo is going to win this arguement, in fact looking at declining 3DS sales particularily in the West where they've completely fallen off a cliff, there's ample evidence to suggest kids don't care that much. When my little nieces/nephews come over to my house they always ask to play with my iPad first, not the 3DS. It's not the adults that are forcing anything on them. In this environment I think Nintendo needs to redefine hardware period and offer experiences the tablet cannot. That's where I think a hybrid machine that is capable of console like experiences on the go and can beam those to a TV or even other displays easily with mobility would be something legitimately new. |
I have many nices and nepews as well and they all played (or have played) the 3DS. Of course, even form the kid's point of view, the tablet can offer you a great variety of games for free, that something a 3DS just can't do .That's why they have to rethink their business model.
freebs2 said:
I have many nices and nepews as well and they all played (or have played) the 3DS. Of course, even form the kid's point of view, the tablet can offer you a great variety of games for free, that something a 3DS just can't do .That's why they have to rethink their business model. |
To be honest, I wonder if Nintendo should just consider a cheap $150 tablet or device of that type which can play Android apps + 3DS/DS games (gotta be what? Thousands of games here?) + Virtual Console software and interface with Amiibo toys (NFC chip built in).
It wouldn't neccessarily have to be the "real" NX.
They should have released that instead of the New 3DS.
I don't even know what I'm looking at. Where are the buttons?
we'll maybe get some official info on NX before E3
NeoGAF Insider Who Predicted Pokemon B&W Says We’ll Get NX Info Before E3 https://t.co/2dpVMG3YbN pic.twitter.com/P3NC94PVLL
— My Nintendo News (@MyNintendoNews) March 22, 2016
I'm not an insider, but I can assure you that obviousely it will be NX info before E3. I think around april shareholders meeting. Thats just common sense, business don't revolve around gaming media. It revolves around money.