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That would be all of them.

It was one of the greatest shows ever produced. A reinvention of the science fiction show that was callously cut down before it's time by the commie nazi anarchists at Fox. But in it's brief span in the verse, it's Heart of Gold shone through and attracted legions of Browncoats to it's cause.

 

And it's for those fellow Independents that I will be analyzing each show in order from least favourite to greatest in a regular segment. This thread is for fans and the uninitiated alike, but that said, there will be spoilers. But my assurance goes to those who have yet fall in love with Serenity and her crew is simple; this show is infintitely rewatchable, so you'll still be able to enjoy each episode long after you know what's going to happen.

 

So right now I'm off to rewatch the first of said episodes. Afterwards you'll get the write up. Shiny?



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I've never seen Firefly but in media we did study the film serenity which is apparently a spin-off or continuation. If the tv series was better then indeed it would be a great show.



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What the hell stof, you're watching all the stuff I'm watching.

I just watched Sunshine, then you made a thread about it.

I just finished watching all of Firefly for the first time, and you make a thread about it.

Next you're going to tell me you're watching Freaks and Geeks? Because I'm watching that now for the first time, can't believe I missed this show.



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The Train Job

It can be hard to pick your least favourite of something you love. But not for a Firefly fan (To be called Browncoats from now on). Because any self respecting Browncoat knows that The Train Job is part of the reason that Firefly didn't make it as a show.
 
Let me tell you a little story.
 
Long ago, there was a man named Joss Whedon. This man created an incredible TV show called Buffy: The Vampire Slayer and it's spin off Angel. Realizing that they had a genius on their hands, Fox asked Joss to put together a new show for them. The show was called Firefly, and it's 2 hour pilot was a masterpiece. It was at both a complex and unique vision of the future, and an intensely personal tale. Of course, Fox was never one for masterpieces. They were worried. The pilot had too much character development, too much of the Universe. Not enough straight forward action. Characters that seemed too complex. 
 
Fox told Joss that he had to write a script for a second episode and that he had 2 days to do it. Joss agreed on the condition that if they liked the second episode, with it's focus on action, larger than life villians and a more simplified 2 demensional space western feel and decided to pick the show up, that the Original Pilot (the one that actually introduces the characters) would show first.
 
Sadly, this did not happen. Instead of showing the pilot, Fox first aired this episode. So instead of being introduced to the crew of Serenity and the verse they live in, we got this.  
 
Now perhaps I'm taking this too far. After all, I do still like the episode, don't I? But I've talked to several sci-fi geeks who hated the show. When I asked why, they said "it was just some dumb space western". When I asked them how much of it they saw, they replied. "I saw the pilot. It was dumb".
 
As for the original Pilot? That masterpiece was broken in to two parts and became the last two shows that aired. Why? I have no goram idea. 

 
Alright. So now I've vented. I've presented this show as a forced product, a show that confused people right of the bat with it's insufficient introduction, and seems redundant to those watching now on DVD and are now listening to people talk about what they just saw the episode before.
 
But that said, it's still a wild ride.
 
The Plot:
The Crew get's a job. Rob a train. But things don't quite go as planned. For one thing, there's a train car full of Alliance soldiers. For another thing, the cargo turns out to be much needed medical goods. And for a third, the psychotic madman who hired them doesn't much like it when things go wrong. 
 
The Good:
 
- The train job concept is just plain cool. In theory, it could have been a bizarre mishmash of space and western. But some terrific effects really sell it as a possible act and a plausible caper. 
 
 - the opening scene is terrific. the "quiet little bar" on a frontier planet and the brawl that ensues perfectly sums up what this show is about. It's got some pretty funny writing in it too.
 
- Like I said, awesome effects. This show really nailed a style and quality that you don't see very often on Television. 
 
- Gregg Henry gives a great performance in his guest role as the sheriff. One thing Firefly did right was it's consistent casting of very good guest stars. The same goes for the guy in the bar during the opening scene.
 
- did I mention it's a fantastic show with where the crew's chemistry works perfectly? 
 
The Bad: you won't see this section very much 
 
- The Villians are just a bit too over the top for my liking. But it still works. Niska is suitably chilling. his henchman is most remeniscent of Jaws from 007 and just way too over the top. But Joss knows it and they manage to turn it into one of the funniest bits that episode.
 
- Really, this show is just a victim of it's circumstances. Joss himself said he would have eventually made this episode either way. But it would have been later in the show and it would have been handled differently.  I applaud him for his efforts. After all, making this show was necessary to get Firefly on the air. It's just a shame that it's also one of the main reasons it didn't last very long.
 
 
 
I apologize for the insane length of this one. Future episode recounts will be a bit shorter, since I'll be focusing more on the show itself and less on the circumstances behind it.
 


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Firefly, started watching first time a week ago. Loved it. No wait, LOVE IT!
Why does Fox keep cancelling good shows (futurama, Firefly)?

Fox destroys dreams :P

Good review.



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I re watched this again a few months ago but now you ask for a RANKING!? Well i'll just have to go and watch it all over again.

Immediate nods though for Jaynestown, Objects in Space and Ariel and the obligatory thumbs down for The Train Job.

One thing though, comparing the 90 minute Pilot to the other 40 minutes episodes is hardly fair.



Fox tends to dislike shows it doesn't have complete control over, especially the money rights. The less control they have, the more likely cancellation will be.

That's how Futurama got canceled. Groenig learned his lesson with the Simpsons and didn't sign everything but the kitchen sink over to Fox. This led to Fox doing everything it could to get the show canceled. They would schedule it guaranteeing the show would be time shifted due to football. In addition, they showed new episodes sporadically. Even with these obstacles the show got good ratings, but Fox still canceled it.



Wow, it seems like there are a lot of people discovering Firefly for the first time.

I too just finished watching the first season on DVD, a week after I got it on Amazon. I was in Best Buy today and was going to buy the collector's edition of Serenity, but that was sold out so I'll have to revert back to online. With all that said, I loved it and thought it was brilliant. I find that the shows I tend to like are usually the ones with the best scripts, and Firefly has that in spades.

OT: It seems that another Fox-canceled show has gone the way of Firefly and earned a feature film sequel due to fan support. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0901469/ Arrested Development is also really strong in the witty dialogue department.



Watched it long time ago (over a year maybe?), remember that i absolutely loved it, forgot most part of it(atleast details), so it's the best time to watch it again :)



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