| onionberry said: then why would they join the khronos team a year before the NX? just to be there without using the tech? |
You can ask the same question as to why Sony, Microsoft, and Apple are even there ...
JRPGfan said:
Yeah but.. sony use their own api (I think?) and MS use DX12(?) (which can work on windows). If nintendo use vulkan, instead of makeing their own api, it means they can easily port things to android, and many programmers that already make android apps, will easily be able to have them also running on the NX. |
Most developers use engines such as Unity, Unreal, Source, etc. where switching between PS4's API, XB1's API, Vulkan, OpenGL, DX11, DX12, iOS, Android is one button press.
You'd have to be insane to try and make your mobile game starting from raw Vulkan code.
JRPGfan said:
Honestly it makes sense... and I really hope that is true. Would be nice if nintendo also ported handheld games, to android... and allowed mobile phone owners to buy nintendo games that way. |
Except they said they won't. And most games are unportable to phones anyway.
fatslob-:O said:
You can ask the same question as to why Sony, Microsoft, and Apple are even there ... |
You may have won the argument, and prevailed in ensuring that your point of view came out on top. I'll be back...
fatslob-:O said:
You can ask the same question as to why Sony, Microsoft, and Apple are even there ... |
Sony for mobile devision.
Microsoft isn't member of the Vulkan group but WebGL.
Apple is member of OpenGL and OpenGLES group.
Nintendo IS member of the Vulkan group.
| Karanlos said: Sony for mobile devision. Microsoft isn't member of the Vulkan group but WebGL. Apple is member of OpenGL and OpenGLES group. Nintendo IS member of the Vulkan group. |
Sony has no need to control the standard for OpenGL ES since they are not the ones writing the drivers for it ...
Your second line makes absolutely no sense since ANY Khronos contributor like Microsoft has VOTING RIGHTS in all of their technology ...
Apple doesn't care about the Khronos group anymore since they have their own gfx API ...
Nintendo is a member of the KHRONOS GROUP, not the Vulkan group ... (Big difference there)
| JRPGfan said: Honestly it makes sense... and I really hope that is true. Would be nice if nintendo also ported handheld games, to android... and allowed mobile phone owners to buy nintendo games that way. |
They won't though, so I don't see the point in fantasizing about it.
fatslob-:O said:
Sony has no need to control the standard for OpenGL ES since they are not the ones writing the drivers for it ... Your second line makes absolutely no sense since ANY Khronos contributor like Microsoft has VOTING RIGHTS in all of their technology ... Apple doesn't care about the Khronos group anymore since they have their own gfx API ... Nintendo is a member of the KHRONOS GROUP, not the Vulkan group ... (Big difference there) |
When I write Vulkan group I mean Vulkan Work Group those who are in charge of the standard. Being a member of the Khronos group doesn't mean you're involved in every technology they own.
Microsoft aren't doing any vulkan work. The only reason they are member of the Khronos Group is because IE and Edge use WebGL in their Javascript API and they have an interrest in the standard.
Apple are still on the work groups but yes they don't really do much anymore. They were actually part of the Vulkan Work group to begin with which you prob. know but departed before it really started.
I guess you're discussing semantics when you say Khronos group vs Vulkan group but Nintendo are part part of the Vulkan work group.
See page 4: https://www.khronos.org/assets/uploads/developers/library/overview/vulkan-overview.pdf
| Karanlos said: When I write Vulkan group I mean Vulkan Work Group those who are in charge of the standard. Being a member of the Khronos group doesn't mean you're involved in every technology they own. Microsoft aren't doing any vulkan work. The only reason they are member of the Khronos Group is because IE and Edge use WebGL in their Javascript API and they have an interrest in the standard. Apple are still on the work groups but yes they don't really do much anymore. They were actually part of the Vulkan Work group to begin with which you prob. know but departed before it really started. I guess you're discussing semantics when you say Khronos group vs Vulkan group but Nintendo are part part of the Vulkan work group. See page 4: https://www.khronos.org/assets/uploads/developers/library/overview/vulkan-overview.pdf |
Sony is a member of the Vulkan working group but you don't see them using it on the PS4 ...
I still stand by the belief that Nintendo will not use Vulkan, period ...
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