You are undermining the wii's success, as you are incapable of accepting tha gamers bought and played it like any other successful console.

This is quite possibly the worst thing you said. Not only keeping the illusion that "core gamers" didn't buy a wii, who do you think you are to say wii owners aren't still buying consoles?

Then it wasn't a bubble, because it lasted. Wii sold huge software and hardware numbers while it was supported. That's all there is to it. Do you call the ps2 and psp bubbles?

The ps2 userbase went to the wii, ps3 and x360, but the wii got more than the others.

By that logic, the sone home console userbase has declines since the first playstation, with ps2 turning it around credited to it's dvd player. Games are what sold those consoles, no excuses.

Core gamers did buy a Wii, but many didnt stick around. They moved to other consoles.

I bought a Wii primarily for some Nintendo stuff and some 3rd party core. Quite frankly, the 3rd party stuff I bought wasnt successful and thats why core support died on Wii U.

The casual software sales this gen are way down. Because that audience is gone, likely using mobile devices. The audience for motion devices dried up (thats the bubble, motion devices). The tablet control was even less desireable than motion controls though.

I explained the PS2 audience primarily went with PS3 and 360. The mobile console is ptretty much dead because of the phone.

If it just took games to sell a console than Wii U and Vita wouldnt be sales disasters. Wii succeeded so well because of a good gimmick, Wii U doesent have that.

No, PS360 succeeded where Wii failed. 3rd party core games. Thats why PS360 stayed relevant longer.

Yeah, the Wii-mote was a gimmick.  Gimmick: a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.  There is nothing wrong with gimmicks, especially when they work.  The Wii sold based on the novelty of the idea, and novelty wears off.  There was no way this was ever going to become the standard controller going forth.

An improved Wii-mote already exists, and there is not much further they can go with that concept.  People weren't going to get all that excited with a Wii HD.  The Wii was sold on the basis of being new and exciting.  It wasn't the kind of console that can be followed up with a more powerful version.  It would have sold better with the Wii-mote (because it can't really have sold worse) but it still wouldn't have been all that successful, assuming the other hardware specs remaines as is.

And yeah, the Wii U was a crappy system.  It was hardware that wasn't designed in sync with the hardware.  Power was sacrificed for a controller that was not needed or utilized.  That's just incredibly poor design, hence, a crappy system.  Good games, but crappy system.

"I explained the PS2 audience primarily went with PS3 and 360. The mobile console is ptretty much dead because of the phone."

If you're arguing that the Wii was a "bubble" because its fanbase went somewhere else, I'm not getting this distinction.  The PS2 audience (over half of them) also went somewhere else.  The PSP audience also went somewhere else.  About half the DS market went somewhere else.  Yet, you seem to be using a different standard for the Wii than with these other systems.

The simple fact is that the Wii sold well throughout its life.  In 2011, the last year before the Wii U debuted, the Wii was still selling over 11 million units, and within 3 million or so of their competitors.  The sharp decline only occured in 2012, when Nintendo pulled virtually all marketing, and Nintendo's release schedule consisted of Mario Party 9, Pokepark 2, Rhythm Heaven Fever, and Kirby Dream Collection.

The Wii sold until Nintendo stopped supporting it.  The Wii U failed because it sucked.  To blame the Wii U's failure on the Wii is simply not supported by the data.

Such a claim without any data doesn't mean anything.

You're simply making stuff up as you go, throwing terms like "casual" and "bubble"

You SAID the ps2 audienced wnet to ps3 and 360, you didn't explain or prove it.

Both vita and wii u don't have lots of games when compared to previous and current consoles, how do you fail to see that?

ps3 and 360 took took longer to decline because they kept getting games while wii support nearly stopped starting 2012. But ultimately wii sold more hardware and almost as much software even with less titles available. Wii didn't fail at anything, it succeeded far more than ps3 and 360.

It would have been sold out for 3 years instead of just 2...

Not to mention that the Wii sold a lot more in its early days.  The more you sell one year, the smaller your potential audience is next year. 

Wii sold less after a few years because the library wasnt great. Support went away because core software wasnt selling.

PS4 has had record breaking years, so I guess X1 is gonna outsell it anually in a few years? I doubt it.