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LudicrousSpeed on 09 May 2016

 

Kerotan said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Wow, who'd have thought all the threads and talk about what a flop TR was and how badly Squeenix screwed up making it timed exclusive and now SFV is looking to be performing even worse. Also surprised to see ROTR outsold the prequel on 360 in the first 10 weeks?

Why don't you compare relevant games if you're talking about who did good exclusive deals.  

 

Tomb raider 2013 a year old port on the ps4 and x1 sold 2.5 times better on ps4. ROTTR would have sold double on ps4 than x1.Thats a shit ton of lost sales.  

 

SFV has shipped 1.4m and less than 200k of those were on pc.  You'd be looking at the 360 version selling a fraction of the ps4 version.  Not a lot of lost sales at all.  

 

Compare apples with apples not oranges with oranges.  logical. 

Logical would be both were bad deals. Also, the thread is about TR vs SFV, if that bothers you, maybe not click the thread? Seems... logical.



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Kerotan on 09 May 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:

 

Kerotan said:

Why don't you compare relevant games if you're talking about who did good exclusive deals.  

 

Tomb raider 2013 a year old port on the ps4 and x1 sold 2.5 times better on ps4. ROTTR would have sold double on ps4 than x1.Thats a shit ton of lost sales.  

 

SFV has shipped 1.4m and less than 200k of those were on pc.  You'd be looking at the 360 version selling a fraction of the ps4 version.  Not a lot of lost sales at all.  

 

Compare apples with apples not oranges with oranges.  logical. 

Logical would be both were bad deals. Also, the thread is about TR vs SFV, if that bothers you, maybe not click the thread? Seems... logical.

Yes but that's just to simply compare the sales.  No problem with this,  that's what the site is for.  

 

But you're going on about it being a bad deal.  Maybe both are bad,  maybe both are good.  But we know which one is worse in terms of lost potential sales.  



LudicrousSpeed on 09 May 2016

Yeah, the SFV deal.

Tomb Raider is still coming to PS4 :)



Mr Puggsly on 10 May 2016
Kerotan said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

 

Logical would be both were bad deals. Also, the thread is about TR vs SFV, if that bothers you, maybe not click the thread? Seems... logical.

Yes but that's just to simply compare the sales.  No problem with this,  that's what the site is for.  

 

But you're going on about it being a bad deal.  Maybe both are bad,  maybe both are good.  But we know which one is worse in terms of lost potential sales.  

As far as we know SFV deal looks much worse. Look how Tomb Raider DE did on PS4. RotTR may still sell a couple million on PS4.

What's SFV gonna sell on X1? Zero.

BUT! We don't know how much either company was paid for exclusivity. I'd say its a safe bet Sony paid more for SFV than MS paid for RotTR given one was temporary.



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Mr Puggsly on 10 May 2016
Ryng_Tolu said:
Tomb Raider: 1 million sold through in 2 months.
Street Fighter V: 1.4 million sold in in 2 months.

...It's close.

That said, when Tomb Raider will release on PS4, it will litterally crush Street Fighter.

You're comparing RotTR VGChartz numbers VS what we suspect is SFV shipping between PS4 (physical and digital) and PC.

We don't know what RotTR's shipped and digital numbers for X1 and 360. Furthermore, between X1, 360, and PC its likely SFV has already been crushed.



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Mr Puggsly on 10 May 2016
DonFerrari said:
Very funny way to compare a game... looking only at the timeframe you hope it to have a winning chance

I did this time frame because 10 weeks gives you a vibe of how a game is doing. SFV is just below RotTR, its well below expectations for Capcom.

Dude, even right now RotTR and SFV sales are at par. Let just admit Capcom screwed up assuming they are fully responsible for how SFV launched.



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Farsala on 10 May 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
Tomb Raider: 1 million sold through in 2 months.
Street Fighter V: 1.4 million sold in in 2 months.

...It's close.

That said, when Tomb Raider will release on PS4, it will litterally crush Street Fighter.

You're comparing RotTR VGChartz numbers VS what we suspect is SFV shipping between PS4 (physical and digital) and PC.

We don't know what RotTR's shipped and digital numbers for X1 and 360. Furthermore, between X1, 360, and PC its likely SFV has already been crushed.

This very thread is about 10 weeks PS4 SFV vs 10 weeks ROTR X1.

PS4 SFV is pretty much confirmed >1m in 7 weeks.

While ROTR X1 was also pretty much confirmed <1m in 8 weeks.

For both ROTR and SFV Ryng was using SE/Capcom confirmed numbers.



Mr Puggsly on 10 May 2016
Farsala said:

PS4 SFV is pretty much confirmed >1m in 7 weeks.

A lot of us really doubt it sold that unless its shipped numbers.

But whatever, lets see if VGChartz makes some changes.



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Lrdfancypants on 10 May 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Farsala said:

PS4 SFV is pretty much confirmed >1m in 7 weeks.

A lot of us really doubt it sold that unless its shipped numbers.

But whatever, lets see if VGChartz makes some changes.

If they're confirmed numbers from both SE/capcom like he stated why would you not consider them in a thread about sales comparisons of the two games?

What's the point of the thread then?



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Mr Puggsly on 10 May 2016
Lrdfancypants said:
Mr Puggsly said:

A lot of us really doubt it sold that unless its shipped numbers.

But whatever, lets see if VGChartz makes some changes.

If they're confirmed numbers from both SE/capcom like he stated why would you not consider them in a thread about sales comparisons of the two games?

What's the point of the thread then?

SE didn't give exact figures and I suspect Capcom is giving shipped numbers. I'm not sure what you don't understand.

If VGChartz updates its figures to reflect what Capcom says (which would be the opposite of shipped numbers), I will gladly update the thread.



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