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Actions speak louder than words (which Phil has been known to spin). I really hope this fails, as xbox is turning into something it shouldn't. People can say whatever, but I feel the brand is become devauled by it. And putting it in the Windows Store is a doomed plan, as it is a crap place to put full priced games in. Trust me, this is just to appease the "pcmasterrace" crowd and make a quick buck and try to increase Windows 10 adoption, when things don't work, Microsoft will end it. They did the same thing with the 360, with "focusing on PC", and it ended in disaster.

 

I've been an avid defender of Microsoft, but this seems like a total backstab to xbox gamers who've been given hell since 2013. For 3 years, they stated QB was exclusive, now suddenly its possible to port, right after the holiday season! Every exclusive that was promised suddenly isn't, once again after holiday sales. I call BS. Phil is turning shaddy and all corporate, and I don't like it. His plans for helping the Xbox brand get sales have failed, and what's unfortunent is that he's now ruining the brand's prospects yet again, just when things where starting to get better! E3 will be it for me. If microsoft simply continue's this push for PC just for software sales, I may just quit gaming altogether (I hate PS for reasons I won't explain, and I'll never game on PC), or if Nintendo actually releases a console with 3rd party support, maybe that is where I go. People can call me petty for saying this, but I don't have unfaithful loyalty to Microsoft. If I feel they're just trying to use gamers, I won't support that.



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barneystinson69 said:

Actions speak louder than words (which Phil has been known to spin). I really hope this fails, as xbox is turning into something it shouldn't. People can say whatever, but I feel the brand is become devauled by it. And putting it in the Windows Store is a doomed plan, as it is a crap place to put full priced games in. Trust me, this is just to appease the "pcmasterrace" crowd and make a quick buck and try to increase Windows 10 adoption, when things don't work, Microsoft will end it. They did the same thing with the 360, with "focusing on PC", and it ended in disaster.

 

I've been an avid defender of Microsoft, but this seems like a total backstab to xbox gamers who've been given hell since 2013. For 3 years, they stated QB was exclusive, now suddenly its possible to port, right after the holiday season! Every exclusive that was promised suddenly isn't, once again after holiday sales. I call BS. Phil is turning shaddy and all corporate, and I don't like it. His plans for helping the Xbox brand get sales have failed, and what's unfortunent is that he's now ruining the brand's prospects yet again, just when things where starting to get better! E3 will be it for me. If microsoft simply continue's this push for PC just for software sales, I may just quit gaming altogether (I hate PS for reasons I won't explain, and I'll never game on PC), or if Nintendo actually releases a console with 3rd party support, maybe that is where I go. People can call me petty for saying this, but I don't have unfaithful loyalty to Microsoft. If I feel they're just trying to use gamers, I won't support that.

I feel ya, Super. You know I'm not an Xbox guy, but I'd be livid it Sony started giving all of its exclusives away. I hope Microsoft stops and realizes that they need to keep reasons to buy their console, too. People are going to buy their OS, regardless (especially gamers), so they don't need to do this.



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Azuren said:
barneystinson69 said:

Actions speak louder than words (which Phil has been known to spin). I really hope this fails, as xbox is turning into something it shouldn't. People can say whatever, but I feel the brand is become devauled by it. And putting it in the Windows Store is a doomed plan, as it is a crap place to put full priced games in. Trust me, this is just to appease the "pcmasterrace" crowd and make a quick buck and try to increase Windows 10 adoption, when things don't work, Microsoft will end it. They did the same thing with the 360, with "focusing on PC", and it ended in disaster.

 

I've been an avid defender of Microsoft, but this seems like a total backstab to xbox gamers who've been given hell since 2013. For 3 years, they stated QB was exclusive, now suddenly its possible to port, right after the holiday season! Every exclusive that was promised suddenly isn't, once again after holiday sales. I call BS. Phil is turning shaddy and all corporate, and I don't like it. His plans for helping the Xbox brand get sales have failed, and what's unfortunent is that he's now ruining the brand's prospects yet again, just when things where starting to get better! E3 will be it for me. If microsoft simply continue's this push for PC just for software sales, I may just quit gaming altogether (I hate PS for reasons I won't explain, and I'll never game on PC), or if Nintendo actually releases a console with 3rd party support, maybe that is where I go. People can call me petty for saying this, but I don't have unfaithful loyalty to Microsoft. If I feel they're just trying to use gamers, I won't support that.

I feel ya, Super. You know I'm not an Xbox guy, but I'd be livid it Sony started giving all of its exclusives away. I hope Microsoft stops and realizes that they need to keep reasons to buy their console, too. People are going to buy their OS, regardless (especially gamers), so they don't need to do this.

Exactly. And since you refer to me as super, I think you know I'm in the xbox camp. I've always loved the brand, but this is no longer the brand I've known of. Hopefully Phil realizes this, and stops it. But only time will tell...



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barneystinson69 said:
Azuren said:

I feel ya, Super. You know I'm not an Xbox guy, but I'd be livid it Sony started giving all of its exclusives away. I hope Microsoft stops and realizes that they need to keep reasons to buy their console, too. People are going to buy their OS, regardless (especially gamers), so they don't need to do this.

Exactly. And since you refer to me as super, I think you know I'm in the xbox camp. I've always loved the brand, but this is no longer the brand I've known of. Hopefully Phil realizes this, and stops it. But only time will tell...

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Here's to hoping they start taking their brand seriously again. Maybe it's time they start amping up new First Party IPs. I know Sony needs to start considering doing so.



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Pemalite said:
Protendo said:

If a developer was going to port a game to PC they still have to port a game to PC. The still have to develope it. Nobody that isn't being paid off by Microsoft is going to give that away free, and even less are going to restrict there games to Windows store alone.

If porting was so easy AAA games like Gears of War wouldn't be a mess on PC. It's not that straight forward.

Porting to PC is usually a secondary effort, not a primary one and in many cases is even outsourced to another studio entirely.

Porting is allot easier today than it was just a couple of years ago, code is now written for PC-like architectures even on Console, API's, Hardware... Doesn't matter. It's never been easier, Microsoft have even released developer tools to streamline the process between all it's platforms. (Windows 10, Xbox, Windows Phone, etc'.)

The Witcher 3 for example sold 30% of all copies on PC. That's 30% more millions of dollars to go towards the next game, not something that can be ignored forever can it?

Not all games will be given away for free in the Windows 10's store of course, in the early days of Steam did you know that Valve essentially gave away copies of Half Life 2 to everyone? It helped draw in users because of free stuff.
EA did a similar thing with Origin and still does with it's "On the House" scheme.

And nor did I say that *all* games will be exclusive to the Windows 10 store, Microsoft is trying to compete remember? Developers are still free to make their own choices, but Microsoft will give them incentives to be Windows 10 exclusive.

Haha, that's turning things upside down. The Witcher 3 went to consoles to make The Wither 3 possible. It was a PC exclusive from the start, yet budget couldn't be big enough with only pc sales. They already had plans with the Witcher 2 for console as the UI was very controller centric from the start, was annoying.

Porting is easy, making a game for tv + controller is not the same as for kb / mouse + monitor however. We get some akward middleground nowadays, tiny hard to read text on tv, uncomfortable to navigate menus on pc. (It's gonna be fun with UWP when games need to find a middleground with tablets and phones as well!)



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I actually really think this is going to make them more competitive and profitable next generation. I dare say for most console owners (the general public), PC and console are not interchangeable, so the idea of windows devaluing the Xbox is only relevant to a small portion of prospective buyers. As long as the Xbox brings plenty of experiences that the PlayStation doesn't have then that is what's most important and this will open the door to a lot more software on Xbox Imo, which will easily compensate for the handful of millions Xbox may potentially, initially loose in hardware users (hardware purchases are not even that profitable, if at all)



Azuren said:
I dunno, it might be too late to be saying things like this. E3 will give us a better understanding of what they plan on doing, though. I would prefer PlayStation keep its rival.

Why would you want them as a rival?, I mean so far having them as a rival since they joined has had them beat 3 times, that hardly seems as good healthy competition for both parties. Looking back on history it looks like it's yielded far better results for Sony than MS, I don't really see the desire to keep someone by your side in roder to make you lok leagues better as healthy or good, it's like you want to use someone for your own ends.



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Chazore said:
Azuren said:
I dunno, it might be too late to be saying things like this. E3 will give us a better understanding of what they plan on doing, though. I would prefer PlayStation keep its rival.

Why would you want them as a rival?, I mean so far having them as a rival since they joined has had them beat 3 times, that hardly seems as good healthy competition for both parties. Looking back on history it looks like it's yielded far better results for Sony than MS, I don't really see the desire to keep someone by your side in roder to make you lok leagues better as healthy or good, it's like you want to use someone for your own ends.

Lol for me this paints a picture of MS being Sonys "fat friend" at parties.



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Ganoncrotch said:

Lol for me this paints a picture of MS being Sonys "fat friend" at parties.

Just reminded me of this guy lol.



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VXIII said:

You are not familiar with Wright, it seems. You have fallen for his trap.

 

I favor a different kind of trap, though.