He made Pikmin 3, will definitely be involved in Pikmin 4, suggested multiplayer in Luigi's Mansion 2, is mentoring the young devs at Nintendo (especially the ones who worked on Splatoon), involved in projects such as 3D World, Mario Maker, and Nintendo Land, and is the general producer of most of the in house projects and a few outside projects such as Smash Bros and Wonderful 101 (though I don't know the job description of a General Producer). Other than Sticker Star and maybe Star Fox (though I'm excited still) and of course being involved with Wii U, he's not done that much bad compared to the good I've listed. He's needed because he has a passion for game development and is training the young devs to be the next leaders.

This is almost physically painful. Nintendo is just so out of touch with what people want. I guess it's just time to give up on a classic Paper Mario game.

I hear you, and some of those complains make sense, but the thing is SF64 already had every of those problems, and it was amazing, it was the kind of game where you could spend 100 hours without even touching the multiplayer, it was that addictive. And I'm not talking from nostalgia, I played it for the first time like 4 years ago maybe, I loved it to bits, so now I look this and the first think it comes to my mind is that looks even more fun that 64, how can that be bad? I cannot process that, it could be way better, sure, but an aberration? I doubt it.

Maybe there are good reasons why this kind of arcade games dont exist anymore outside indies, but many of us WANT this kind of arcade games back when it comes to franchises like star fox that only were really great on that genre. And I higely disagre with Kid Icarus being better than SF64, not in milion years for me xD

And for the record, no i dont ignore your comments, dont know where that comes, I think you say a lot of reasonable things, but I strongly disagree with you other times, like this one, you should at least admit that is looking better now.

Well I disagree vehemently that SF64 holds up today, so seeing SF0 copy it so closely that even the arwing looks like it has the exact same polygonal geometry (I wish I was lying. Look at the two) makes me sick. It's like people playing OoT again. It doesn't matter how much people loved that game. Wind Waker and Twilight Princess' gameplay has advanced far beyond that of OoT, which makes sense because these games aren't new to the rodeo like OoT was. They have a polish gained from hindsight that SF0 lacks.

Playing SF64 and then playing KI:U is an actual system shock because of how ancient and slugish SF64 is by comparison, and SF0 look exactly the same because they didn't care about modernizing it and that's an issue. OoT may not have aged gracefully, but it's an absolute swan compared to the ugly duckling that is SF64. But that's alright because, like I said, SF64 is a relic. Most 3D games of that era aged terribly. Look at FF7. Look at the Mario Kart 64 or DKR. Look at Goldeneye. It's fine that those games are as flawed as they are because they were pioneers that laid the ground work for FFXV, Zelda U, Mario Kart 8, Kid Icarus: Uprising, and... You know, other games. They didn't have anything to look to. SF0 does.

You asked how it can be that bad. That fact that SF64 aged so abysmally is one thing. The fact that I've played a modern game in the genre made by Nintendo that was supposed to be a Star Fox game less than five years ago is another thing. But SF64 didn't force cumbersome and unwanted controls onto the player, and it didn't cut the game's visual fidelity in half just to achieve it. If you need to dedicate a button to fixing you controls, your controls are irreconcilably flawed. If you have to dedicate 50% of your system's processing power to allow your irreconcilably flawed controls to exist in the first place, your game is irreconcilably flawed.

You know, I didn't like using the stylus in KI:U. I felt that the increased percision wasn't worth the severe discomfort that came along with it, and I thought it was especially terrible in the on foot sections, but you know what, I dealt with it, because the game was actually modern outside of that and because the stylus controls weren't that intrusive. It was my one caveat to an otherwise excellently made game. It was a big caveat, and I think the game is absolutely worse for it, but since that was the only major issue, I dealt with it. I cannot deal with this. There's too much wrong with it built on the unmodified foundation of a severely outdated game.

And of course. Same here. It's a forum. Of course people will disagree. That's how discussions form and that's why we're all here. Again, I wouldn't give you or anyone else the respect of a multiparagraph response, mainstakingly detailing my arguments and oppositions, if I didn't care, and I wouldn't have the propositions to do so if I was really being ignored.

Shit, we are way off topic though. Like waaaaaayyyy off topic.

I'm never going to give up. There's already a petition to cancel it. While I'm not going to sign, this is clearly a warning to them.

I will just play paper mario 1/2 (and 3) again.

It's really time for me to stop buying new nintendo hardware.