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NX will not be more powerful than PS4 nor will it be on par with the Xbox one. Since NX is anyone's guess I wanna state mine. NX will be modeled closely after the WII U using the same architecture so it plays the same library of games but it will be scaled down and scaled up. Yes, NX will be a portable Wii U as well as a home revision that adds two player touch screen gaming.

 

Why? Because for one, as mentioned every where, playing the power game mid cycle is as risky a venture as risky can be. Another reason is because making a new portable is about timing and the 3DS' time is up. More reasons include, the Wii U can not be abandoned without permanently marking Nintendo's reputation, their most important asset. Why else? Wii U needs a name change badly. Not joking :)

 

So allow me to extrapolate. This november Nintendo reveals an NX family of products which include a portable that boasts a Wii U library, decent battery life, and an affordable price. This hand held will compete with smart devices for the gamer's dollar. Will it succeed? If the device has an aluminum-glass premium feel on the outside and a Nintendo Seal of Quality in it's software then I believe it will make a large amount of space for itself. It'll do amazing.

 

Also please allow me to extrapolate the other part of NX. This november Nintendo releases the NX home entertainment system that boasts a Wii U library, support for two touch-screen controllers simultaneously, and boosted hardware that improve the user experience all around. Will it succeed? Only the Nintendo faithful will buy it because PS4 has already stolen the show. On the positive side; it's not costly, it invites inroads, and it keeps Nintendo's reputation.

 

I came up with this theory because i can not rationalize an alternate path that leads to a greater potential for success. It will be very exciting to see NX. My imagination is brimming with possibilities each day as I anticipate it. I would be very pleased with a portable Wii U that acted as a second controller on my home console. Pleased because I can continue to build my Wii U game library and also because of the joy it will bring to a wider audience. 

 

How would you feel? Can you think of other possibilites for succeeding? Please lmk in the comments because I'm very curious.



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I don't think the NX will just be a WiiU revision. Sure, the Wii was really a GC revision with motion controlls and it sold gangbusters. But the Wii added something new at the right time for the right price, and it sold thanks to that. A WiiU revision would fail simply because the time for a machine like that was 2010-2011 (when tablets were all the rage and the Wii was showing its age but the brand still had energy), but they missed that train and confused people with bad advertisement, confusing name and low specs.

The NX needs a similar architecture to their competitors to bring as many support as possible. A handheld with WiiU-like power would be amazing, specially in Japan, but the home console version would need more horsepower. Scalable games would solve the problem, but again, it needs PS4 or XBone-like power and simple architecture to get games. Nintendo alone can't keep their hardware afloat considering it taks longer and longer to develop games.

Good handheld specs to win the japanese companies, easy architecture to get western ports, and competitive price to get an userbase as fast as possible. Considering the tech avalible nowadays, it won't be hard to match PS4 power and be competitive.



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The handheld would do OK but still likely suffer further erosion as it doesn't really address any of the core issues plaguing the 3DS (that is namely the loss of kids/casual players to smart phone/tablet gaming and the free game model they offer).

That console likely wouldn't do very well at all, probably 10 million or so LTD.

If the console is that underwhelming I don't see anyone but Nintendo fans buying it, and even then probably just the most hardcore part of their fan base.

Also the portable would be so close to the console in power, then why not just let the portable output to the TV? Most people would not want the console anyway.



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The handheld would do OK but still likely suffer further erosion as it doesn't really address any of the core issues plaguing the 3DS (that is namely the loss of kids/casual players to smart phone/tablet gaming and the free game model they offer).

That console likely wouldn't do very well at all, probably 10 million or so LTD.

If the console is that underwhelming I don't see anyone but Nintendo fans buying it, and even then probably just the most hardcore part of their fan base.

Also the portable would be so close to the console in power, then why not just let the portable output to the TV? Most people would not want the console anyway.

I can see it happening. Considering a lot of people preffer Nintendo handhelds over home consoles, and the tech between NX home console and handheld is bound to be similar if not identical, I can see the home console NX being just a NX TV, a miniconsole with the handheld version as the controller. If it is cheap enough, it might find success as a complementary console and as a handheld. It would not use disks, it would have to be cartridge only.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Soundwave said:

The handheld would do OK but still likely suffer further erosion as it doesn't really address any of the core issues plaguing the 3DS (that is namely the loss of kids/casual players to smart phone/tablet gaming and the free game model they offer).

That console likely wouldn't do very well at all, probably 10 million or so LTD.

If the console is that underwhelming I don't see anyone but Nintendo fans buying it, and even then probably just the most hardcore part of their fan base.

Also the portable would be so close to the console in power, then why not just let the portable output to the TV? Most people would not want the console anyway.

I can see it happening. Considering a lot of people preffer Nintendo handhelds over home consoles, and the tech between NX home console and handheld is bound to be similar if not identical, I can see the home console NX being just a NX TV, a miniconsole with the handheld version as the controller. If it is cheap enough, it might find success as a complementary console and as a handheld. It would not use disks, it would have to be cartridge only.

The problem is I don't think very many people would buy the "NXTV" model aside from core Nintendo fanatics, and really I think more people were annoyed that Sony didn't just allow the Vita to output to the TV if the Vita TV had the same exact chip. Even relative to Vita sales, people interested in the Vita overwhelmingly chose the portable model and not the Vita/Playstation TV model. 



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Yeah, all of this sounds like the Vita (both TV and handheld versions). I had a similar idea years ago and it already sounded like the Vita back then (I even said so... can't find the post, sorry).

I went off the tangent in another thread yesterday. But I'll stick it here:

Maybe by now the mobile technology is fast enough that ARM will be a good substitute for PowerPC? Although I see a different evolution in other devices such as tablets and mobiles, some of them are dropping ARM to go for x84-64. Intel missed the boat that ARM took with power efficiency although they've been spending loads to recover the lost ground.

So Nintendo might also go for fusion or APU or however AMD calls it now for both HH and HC. I don't know.

They are most likely dropping PowerPC. But what should they take next? Looks like the hardware market is going x64 in mobile, tablets, etc. Should Nintendo jump there directly, or spend an in between generation with ARM?



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I've considered this but only in a a situation where the NX "dedicated" home console does not arrive til 2018.

So essentially what we're receiving in 2016, is a powerful, dockable handheld that will phase out the Wii U. Going forward it's fine that Nintendo ports all games across both systems but how is BC achieved without the handheld also being Power PC? (a big no, no!)

Ultimately what makes the most sense is that Nintendo abandon the Wii U and 3DS at the same time, instead of trying to shape a new system after the Wii U. The fear of Nintendo's brand being damaged by them ending the Wii U's life 1 year short of 5 years is ultimately nonsensical, Xbox suffered the same fate and no one cared with 360. The damage from Wii U has already been done and it's not from a 4 year life cycle, it's from a lack of software on a yearly basis. Something that will not be fixed by giving the Wii U 1 extra year of life.



Here is what i think:
First, i'm pretty sure the NX will not be a sucessor to the 3DS and Wii U. Either a smart phone, or a streaming device.

For a sucessful next-gen console, their only one chance wich is to launch at the same time as the PS5/X2 with similar power and architecture. Mid-generation systems never work. Yes, this means biting the bullet with the Wii U until then... but wait!

For the next portable they should have a system with the same architecture and power as the Wii U. Games made for one could be made available for the other. This would extend the life of the Wii U as the home console disc based variant and the new portable would come off the gate with a solid library of games. Not to mention that the development time for new titles would be shortened because many tools are already developed.

That would be my master plan to get Nintendo to be in the race once again (in a broad way). Changes have to be made in other levels to ensure all systems are in competitive grounds.

If after this the Next generation home console failed to get at least 1/3 of the market then they should give up completely and just make systems for the casuals... aka Wii 2 with better motion controls, etc.



I think it will depend greatly on price.
It should be a console and handheld playing the same games.
Console should be $250 if without an HDD or $299 with HDD.
Handheld should be $199 tops.

I think that and 4-5 great launch games, which should not be a problem if libraries are combined, should warrant a decent success.