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Yerm on 09 February 2016

while other major Nintendo IP's such as Pokemon or the Legend of Zelda get remakes every few years, Mario games have been one to arrive once and never come back again. in this case Im referring to the Super Mario series with Super Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, and Mario Galaxy. not entirely the 3D World and 3D Land games because they take on different game styles. i just think it would be cool if they bundled all of the 3D mario platformers as a remastered collection, because i know for a fact that people would love that.

Sony and Microsoft already made their own "The Nathan Drake Collection" and "the Master Chief Collection" respectively and they have both been great ways for first time players and even just fans revisiting the series to catch up with all the major games in a single package. also with the NX releasing soon, we have heard rumors and even confirmed reports of new games but nothing mario based at all which is a bit weird. 

my reasoning for thinking that a "The Super Mario Collection" would be a good idea for them is- 

1. We have not gotten a traditional style 3D mario platformer in almost 6 years, the last one being Super Mario Galaxy 2

2. They want the NX to sell big, like the success of the PS4 in half the time. a major collection of mario games, all of which fans have been wanting remastered for years would definitely help reach that goal.

3. it isnt really an unreasonable goal. mario games or even just nintendo games in general never take up that much space on a disc and getting all of them in one package would not be a challenge at all, even with the games being remastered.

 

So what do you guys think? should a "The Super Mario Collection" happen?



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LipeJJ on 09 February 2016
RolStoppable said:
EAD Tokyo should have a new 3D Mario game ready for launch, so why bother with a collection? To be more accurate though, if Zelda U releases also for NX, then EAD Tokyo will get at least a couple of extra months to finish their game.

And to be even more accurate, I can't see Nintendo putting four games into one package. Too much effort to remaster that many games by today's standards (Super Mario All-Stars happened during a time when it didn't demand a lot of resources), plus people would be willing to pay more than $15 per game anyway.

I truly believe they'll have both ready for their next system's launch; just Zelda would be not enough. I know there will be other minor games, but probably nothing as big as a 3D Mario.

OP: Nah, I don't think this is needed right now or in the near future.



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HylianYoshi on 09 February 2016

Didn't Nintendo confirm years ago that they were already working on another 3D Mario, after 3D World? They'll probably launch NX with that. I had the idea for an "The Olimar Collection" a few weeks back. Personally, I would rather they remaster all of the Pikmin games. There's not not much that needs fixing in most Mario games.



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JetSetter on 09 February 2016

Eh I don't really know. I rather then just make a new 2D and 3D Mario game for the NX and go from there. No need to just remake old games that still work great to this day.



snyps on 09 February 2016

The Super Mario Collection would be a sure winner. It would give Nintendo a chance to work on current tech instead of inventing new gameplay. It would help move systems. But Nintendo won't because they are much smarter than me.



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LipeJJ on 09 February 2016
RolStoppable said:
LipeJJ said:

I truly believe they'll have both ready for their next system's launch; just Zelda would be not enough. I know there will be other minor games, but probably nothing as big as a 3D Mario.

OP: Nah, I don't think this is needed right now or in the near future.

There's no need to launch with Zelda and 3D Mario at the same time. If you have Zelda at launch and a release date for 3D Mario three months later, then that's good enough. It's actually better, because it will show that the next big game won't be far away, thus raising consumer confidence in the platform.

I'd normally agree with this, but I don't think Nintendo is in the position to release a new system with a port/cross gen game as it's main thing. It would be better to release it along with 3D Mario and after 3 or 4 months have some other big game... maybe Retro's project, I don't know.

I know this is no small feat, but still... they really have to try hard this time.



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Mike321 on 09 February 2016

Not really, I'm ok with nintendo releasing them on the virtual console (btw the NX must have a gamecube vc)



                                                                                     

LipeJJ on 09 February 2016
RolStoppable said:
LipeJJ said:

I'd normally agree with this, but I don't think Nintendo is in the position to release a new system with a port/cross gen game as it's main thing. It would be better to release it along with 3D Mario and after 3 or 4 months have some other big game... maybe Retro's project, I don't know.

I know this is no small feat, but still... they really have to try hard this time.

The Wii launched with a Zelda cross gen game as its main thing, or at least that was assumed to be its main thing.

Let me put it another way. Zelda is the surefire thing and it should be complemented by a new IP, one that shows off the benefits of NX. It isn't a bad strategy. If the new IP doesn't catch on, the known quantity will sell the hardware until the next known quantity hits the market three months later. Before you mention the Wii U, it didn't execute such a strategy; its new IP failed and there was nothing lined up to help NSMBU; there wasn't even anything in sight, except for the surefire failure Pikmin 3 (Pikmin 1 and 2 weren't big sellers). But for the Wii we basically knew the year 1 lineup six months before the system launched. It's a world of difference as far as consumer confidence is concerned.

Anyway, back to the NX launch. Let me put it even more specifically: The system needs a three pillar strategy as far as launch lineup goes.

1. The sequel to a big established IP. That would be covered by Zelda.
2. The new IP. Something with a notable marketing push that shows that the new system brings something new to the table.
3. Classic games. That's the Virtual Console. Everything that is on the Wii U should be ready on the NX's launch day.

If the new IP fails, Zelda will be there for the rescue. The next big sequel shouldn't be far away either, so even in a worst case scenario the system's sales should remain relatively stable (unlike the Wii U which fell off a cliff). A well-executed Virtual Console will definitely help.

Putting out sequels to big established IPs at regular intervalls (let's say three months) will buy Nintendo time to hit it big with a new IP. Putting out two sequels at the same time will mean that Nintendo risks to miss one of the three month intervalls. That could be devastating. There's also the consideration that two big sequels at launch will make it hard for third parties to find any kind of success. One big Nintendo game is already enough to sell the hardware, so it isn't a bad idea to leave third parties a little bit of breathing room.

Oh well, if they release the system along with a brand new IP that showcases its capabilities I'm sure Zelda HD will be enough indeed. This changes the whole thing. But if they don't, I really think they need 2 strong games to kick things off. But first we need to see what's the main point of NX... if it's "just" cross-play, I don't think they could make a specific game to showcase it since most (or all) games would already have this main feature. But that's just speculation from my part, we really need more info on this system.



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Cloudman on 09 February 2016

Sure, why not. Though I dunno if releasing Mario 64 would attract a lot of people. By today's standards, I don't think anyone could stand to look at it...

Although this seems kind of pointless. You can get M64 and Galaxy 1 and 2 on VC already. What's the point of a physical recollection?



 

              

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Ultrashroomz on 09 February 2016

Virtual Console is a thing, so it'd be a little pointless I'd say.



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