I was hopeful that the Wii U would be great like every Nintendo console before it, but sadly it wasn't. I no longer have a Wii U as it wasn't to my tastes. I love Nintendo, but I'm not a sheep, I'm not going to buy everything with the Nintendo name on it. The Wii U has been a failure sales-wise and games-wise (in my opinion; Pikmin 3 and Bayonetta 2 are the only ones on the console I can say were worth the money to me.) However, all creators, no matter how great, eventually have a miss. Nothing wrong with that. I still love my 3DS and play it daily, so I'm very hopeful for NX.

Not releasing the next Zelda game on NX would be a mistake. WiiU owners will be able to play the games on the WiiU, so I don't get what's the problem with a dual release. It'll push the NX hardware on its launch, so more sales for them. And they need all the sales they could get, so more developers would jump on the NX bandwagon. WiiU owners could still play the game, and I would be happy for them if the NX had a good release. Why does Zelda has to be exclusive? That's a bit elitist way of thinking. We don't have any more rights or privileges to play Zelda than a consumer who'll buy a Nintendo console for the first time.

I went into a bit more detail in my response to Soundwave.

On DS, Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Brain Age, NSMB, all released back to back to back within an 8-9 months span. None of these games individually would have done a ton for DS but having them all release one right after another like they did from August 2005-May 2006 caused a huge increase in casual interest and Nintendo & 3rd parties continued to provide strong support for this market for the next few years.

This never happened on 3DS, Nintendogs+Cats released at launch in March 2011 but that one game can only do so much by itself, games like Style Savvy, Art Academy, Brain Age all released in late 2012/early 2013, which is 1.5-2 years later. There wasnt realy any notable casual software released between March 2011 & September 2012. 3D Land/Mario Kart are casual-core and they released 8-9 months after Nintendogs and NSMB2 released another 8-9 months after that.

This same thing applies to Wii/Wii U. Wii had big casual games right out of the gate and these type of games really never stopped coming for the first few years. Wii U on the other hand had the big NSMBU+Nintendo Land combo but pretty much nothing else for a year when a few released during holiday 2013, another case of too little, too late.

Software output isn't the only problem, 3DS/Wii U both cost $100 more than DS/Wii at launch, both had consumer confusion issues, 3DS was thought to be a DS revision with a 3D screen, Wii U was thought to be a tablet accessory for Wii, when retailers have to make signs telling consumers that these are in fact new devices than u know u fucked up the design & marketing.

Software output+poor hardware design+poor marketing+high price for what device offers is what killed the casual market on Nintendo devices. Of course mobile contributed greatly and a decline likely would have happened regardless but Nintendo could have had a much better showing without making so many mistakes.

It's not necessarily that Nintendo underestimated mobile, it's more like there simply wasn't a big mobile presence when R&D for 3DS/Wii U was happening. iOS released in 2007 along with Android in 2008 and the gaming scene on both took awhile to take off. I think 2010 was the year mobile gaming really started to get bug and by that point 3DS was just about to be released and Wii U about to be unveiled so by that point it was too late to react and adapt.

Don't mind as long as there is competent Wii U version and game doesn't have a super slow starting. I usually don't get consoles at launch so that should help.

Nobody is entitle to anything. You buy a Wii U based on the games available and whether you like the console. Its like when bayonetta 2 went on to Wii U. Some PS owners moaned that because the first was on their console all,others should follow. That's not how it works. I bought my Wii u at launch because I really enjoyed ZombiU and Love 2d Mario games.after that I am not entitled to demand or expect anything else. I can want something to come to Wii U of course, but to expect and feel entitled to it is another. So long as Zelda it arrives On Wii U it doesn't matter if it dual releases on NX or arrives on it later. That's the nature of gaming. People just feel the need to moan and demand almost anything.

4-5 games a year? What are you talking about? According to wikipedia, DS+Wii have close to 3800 games released for them. During their prime years of 2006-2010 these devices were each getting a few hundred games per year, of which a very large percentage were casual friendly software.

Padib

I was just commenting on how people feel entitled to stuff. I didn't mean a direct comparrison but just in how some gamers feel entitled.

as i guy who hates the amount of "privileged" behavior in gaming these days i must say rol did a great job with this thread. the consumer isn't owed anything. nintendo (or whoever) should do what they think is best.

as an ex-nintendo fan,.. i just have to say that for all the things nintendo did to piss me off making zelda TP a cross gen title was never one of them. i'll never understand the amount of hate generated for zelda TP, TLoU, or potentially zelda wiiU. more end if gen titles should be available on next gen systems not less.

more sales more money to make more games

the kids dont really care too much for Ninty anyway