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theDX said:
Why are Americans so obsessed with race and gender?

White man guilty mentality.



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Soundwave said:
RadiantDanceMachine said:
When people can't make it on merit they claim racism or sexism. Welcome to 'murica.

 

Pretty sure this dude is one of the most successful Americans (multi-multi-multi millionaire, huge success in music, TV, and movies, one of the most famous people on the planet) period. 

Indeed, but has bowed to the whims of the other black actors crying racism. It's really quite pathetic on Smith's behalf.





Will Will hang out with me instead...? Since you know am not attending Oscars either.



theDX said:
Why are Americans so obsessed with race and gender?

 


Liberals for the most part own the media and they pander to minorities for votes. 



Aielyn said:
While I do agree that the lack of diversity is indicative of a problem, I also think that these decisions to "boycott" the Oscars is misguided in the extreme.

Did Rosa Parks boycott buses in 1955? Think about what would have happened if she did. What would happen if "African Americans" had just refused to use buses at all - it would just become another place that whites wouldn't be exposed to anyone who looks different from them.

What should be happening is a dialogue with all of the Oscar candidates, to get them to mention the diversity issue in their acceptance speeches, should they win. They need to make sure that the full diversity is on display in the audience, and refuse to allow the event to be a white-only event. Visibility is essential, and boycotting won't bring visibility, it'll limit it.

Yes, Rosa Parks and the entire black community boycott the Montgomery bus system for over a year, though this is a very different case.





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Teeqoz said:
kitler53 said:
kitler53 said:
LipeJJ said:
So, he's implying that they should nominate people not by their merit, but based on ethnic/cultural diversity?

Or the did I read it wrong?

i'd have to review the movies out this year but that's kind of the question i want to know too. 

the nominated people is filtered down to which movies/performers where great this year.  now let's be honest,.. without much review i can already tell you most of the hollywood movies feature white people.  so if there were no great performances from non-white people this year it seems like you shouldn't be protesting the awards ceremony but rather the movie casting.

but then casting often times comes down to celebrities that pack the theaters with people.  a pure ecomonics based decision which implies it is movie goers that are truely to blame. 

i dunno.  there is a "problem" but i'm just not sure blame is being put in the right spot.



 

okay.  to answer my own question here are the top 10 rated movies according to rotten tomatoes:

.   97% Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)
2.   98% Inside Out (2015)
3.   99% Selma (2015)
4. 93% Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015)
5. 98% Brooklyn (2015)
6. 97% It Follows (2015)
7. 97% Spotlight (2015)
8. 99% Shaun the Sheep (2015)
9. 93% The Martian (2015)
10. 98% Paddington (2015)

 

so basically the possibility of non-white actors is:

1. selma

2. the black guy from star wars

 


Well, I'm not sure blockbuster movies with high Rotten tomato scores are the best reference point for potential Oscar nominess/winners. How many of the nominees for any of the best actor awards (male lead, female lead, supporting etc.) were from those movies? Matt Damon from The Martian is the only one I know of, but of course I haven't been paying attention to this (and I won't either). BTW The Martian was frikkin great.

 

I don't understand why Charlize theron wasn't nominated for best actress in a leading role. She was fantastic in Mad max. 



Danman27 said:

I don't understand why Charlize theron wasn't nominated for best actress in a leading role. She was fantastic in Mad max. 

 

She displayed no range in that movie, therefore there was no need to nominate her.



Wonktonodi said:
Yes, Rosa Parks and the entire black community boycott the Montgomery bus system for over a year, though this is a very different case.

Ah, I should have been a little more clear.

There was a boycott, but it came *after* the high-visibility event. Indeed, the mere fact that I didn't know about the boycott demonstrates my point. The boycott there was simply the way to keep up the pressure, after the fact. It wasn't a boycott for awareness, it was a boycott to drain money from the Montgomery Bus system. Boycotts are effective when they put economic pressure on a company.

In other words, if they want a boycott that would affect the Oscars, they need to get people to not watch the Oscars, perhaps even to refuse to watch movies for some period of time. But a boycott would be the wrong move anyway - this isn't an economic issue in any respect, it's a social issue. This is about respect, not rights.



Aielyn said:
Wonktonodi said:
Yes, Rosa Parks and the entire black community boycott the Montgomery bus system for over a year, though this is a very different case.

Ah, I should have been a little more clear.

There was a boycott, but it came *after* the high-visibility event. Indeed, the mere fact that I didn't know about the boycott demonstrates my point. The boycott there was simply the way to keep up the pressure, after the fact. It wasn't a boycott for awareness, it was a boycott to drain money from the Montgomery Bus system. Boycotts are effective when they put economic pressure on a company.

In other words, if they want a boycott that would affect the Oscars, they need to get people to not watch the Oscars, perhaps even to refuse to watch movies for some period of time. But a boycott would be the wrong move anyway - this isn't an economic issue in any respect, it's a social issue. This is about respect, not rights.

I disagree that your not knowing proves your point. She wasn't the first to be arrested for not giving up her seat. The boycott is part of what made Martin Luther King Jr. so well known and showed what the movement could do when they worked together. The boycott wasn't to keep the pressure, the boycott was the pressue.

In this case the "event" could be considered two years in a row of only white people being nominated for the acting roles, but indeed in this case for the boycott to be efective would either them getting people not to watch the show or not to watch movies the show being an easier target than movies since they would have a hard time getting peopel to agree what movies need to be boycotted to prove the point.

for an efective boycott of the show they need to have many more high profile people not show up to the awards ceremony,  even if they got changes in the nominating process, the issues go much further back when the movies are made to begin with, where there isn't diversity in the making of the movies and good acting roles as well as directing, aren't cast as diverse, so for all those who don't even get offered acting roles because of race, it is an econimic issue and the awards are only a symptom of the underlying issue, not the issue itself.

 





Danman27 said:

I don't understand why Charlize theron wasn't nominated for best actress in a leading role. She was fantastic in Mad max.

We're going off-topic here but I can't see a single reason why this movie, or any actor in it, shows anything Oscar worthy. She drove a truck from A to B, and in the end returned from B to A, no story here. And all those action scenes were simple rehashes from the old Mad Max movies. Sure those Americans love exploding cars and all, but I really can't see anything special about that movie at all.