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Forums - Sales Discussion - December 2015 NPD Thread! PS4 and XBO exclusives LTD up!

DonFerrari on 18 January 2016
Boutros said:

XBO LTD:

Halo 5: Guardians - ~1.699m
Forza Motorsport 6 - ~451k
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition - ~371k
Rise of the Tomb Raider - ~345k
Rare Replay - ~239k
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition - ~81k

PS4 LTD:

Bloodborne - ~754k
MLB 15: The Show - ~626k
The Order: 1886 - ~357
Uncharted : The Nathan Drake Collection - ~259k
Until Dawn - ~330k
God of War III Remastered - ~162k
Tearaway Unfolded - ~24k

So besides Halo 5 that is a much bigger IP than all the others we could say that X1 and PS4 exclusives are about the same in sales



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 18 January 2016
Boutros said:

Third-party games sales; 2015 games only; LTD; no bundles:

Over 3 million (PS4 = 1, XBO = 1)
Between 2 and 3 million (PS4 = 0, XBO = 0)
Between 1.5 and 2 million (PS4 = 2, XBO = 1)
Between 1 and 1.5 million (PS4 = 4, XBO = 3)
Between 500k and 1 million (PS4 = 8, XBO = 9)
Between 200k and 500k million (PS4 = 12, XBO = 12, Wii U = 3)
Between 100k and 200k (PS4 = 11, XBO = 9, Wii U = 2)
Between 10k and 100k (PS4 = 70, XBO = 54, Wii U = 9)

Pretty even between X1 and PS4 as well.. and HW LTD shows that... 



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

AsGryffynn on 18 January 2016
Boutros said:
Shadow1980 said:
Hey Boutros. VGC has updated their hardware up through the week ending Jan. 9. You can finish updating the hardware chart in your OP.

Well they also adjusted numbers for past weeks (using NPD) as they do every month after NPD is out so they aren't really VGC numbers at this point lol

But here's the chart anyway. I will put both the old one and the new one in the OP.

Before NPD:

 

After NPD:

So the gap did shrink...





DonFerrari on 18 January 2016
AsGryffynn said:
Boutros said:
Shadow1980 said:
Hey Boutros. VGC has updated their hardware up through the week ending Jan. 9. You can finish updating the hardware chart in your OP.

Well they also adjusted numbers for past weeks (using NPD) as they do every month after NPD is out so they aren't really VGC numbers at this point lol

But here's the chart anyway. I will put both the old one and the new one in the OP.

Before NPD:

 

After NPD:

So the gap did shrink...

Yes, they should had heard Gribble when he dropped his prediction from 350k to 200-250k.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

GribbleGrunger on 18 January 2016



 

The PS5 Exists. 


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OneKartVita on 18 January 2016
GribbleGrunger said:

So halo is down 3m in the first 2 months in USA. Ouch.  

 

Rainbow has done very well for itself.  Word of mouth is good.  Even in Japan the game has nice legs. 





tbone51 on 18 January 2016
OneKartVita said:
GribbleGrunger said:

So halo is down 3m in the first 2 months in USA. Ouch.  

 

Rainbow has done very well for itself.  Word of mouth is good.  Even in Japan the game has nice legs. 

 

Digital sales, so depending on it I think it'sxsafe it's between 2.05mil-2.4mil (15-33% ratio) 

At least 2



barneystinson69 on 18 January 2016
tbone51 said:
OneKartVita said:

So halo is down 3m in the first 2 months in USA. Ouch.  

 

Rainbow has done very well for itself.  Word of mouth is good.  Even in Japan the game has nice legs. 

 

Digital sales, so depending on it I think it'sxsafe it's between 2.05mil-2.4mil (15-33% ratio) 

At least 2

 


I'd say closer to 2.4. Still a big decline, but not as bad.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Boutros on 18 January 2016

Multiplatform LTD (with special editions; without bundles):

Call of Duty: Black Ops III - 7.75m
XBO - 40.59%
PS4 - 39.80%
360 - 12.03%

Fallout 4 - 3.666m
PS4 - 52.10%

Madden NFL 16 - 4.337m
PS4 - 38.52%
XBO - 32.94%
360 - 18.60%

Star Wars Battlefront - 3.568m
XBO - 52.82%

NBA 2K16 - 3.304m
PS4 - 44.55%
XBO - 34.82%
360 - 13.16%

Batman: Arkham Knight - 1.872m
PS4 - 60.08%

Mortal Kombat X - 2.364m
PS4 - 57.90%

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - 1.351m
PS4 - 59.81%

Dying Light - 1.333m
PS4 - 54.41%

FIFA 16 - 2.028m
PS4 - 40.84%
XBO - 31.49%
360 - 17.26%

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - 1.122m
PS4 - 65.80%
XBO - 23.23%
PS3 - 6.88%



SWORDF1SH on 19 January 2016
barneystinson69 said:
tbone51 said:

 

Digital sales, so depending on it I think it'sxsafe it's between 2.05mil-2.4mil (15-33% ratio) 

At least 2

 


I'd say closer to 2.4. Still a big decline, but not as bad.

Again, why is digital only bought up when Halo sales are questioned? I'm actually fine with people using digital to get a more accurate picture but stop treating Halo like a special case.

When we hear people pointing out the decline in physical sales of the COD franchise, do we hear people stand up and say "o wait a minute, should we include the rise of digital as a factor?". No!

In one case we have jason (sorry to pull you up on this buddy) who has repeatedly defended Halo with digital, but happily agree that COD is declining without mentioning digital until I brought it up. I'm not saying he's doing it on purpose because I know he is a COD fan, but it seems it is now instinctive for people to bring up digital for Halo but ignore every other game.