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bigtakilla on 10 January 2016
hershel_layton said:
ganoncrotch said:
SvennoJ said:
hershel_layton said:
 

Well, let's be realistic here. Of course the projectors are in the thousands.

 

Smart 4k TV's have just gotten an average of under 1000 dollars(for a maximum of around 60 inches). Projectors are a whole different levels. LG is currently making many projectors. 8k will most likely come by the time of 2018-2020. By then, a 4k projector should be around 500-1000 dollars(or more if you love spending cash)

My Sharp Aquos 52D62U 52" 1080p tv was $4500 in 2006
My Panasonic PT-AE1000U 1080p projector was $4600 in 2007

It wasn't on a whole different level with 1080p. Projectors are lagging behind when it comes to 4K. They should be in the $4000 range now.
Btw, damn checking my bills, the heck was I doing back then. At least there was already plenty stuff available for 1080p, and I was a whole lot more excited about 1080p than 4K currently. Both still work great, although the tv has developed a slight striping effect with monochrome backgrounds (Journey highlights the problem) and projector lamps don't last that long.

This is the exact issue against "future proofing" when it comes to something like a screen, I'm sure those screens have done you very very well for the previous generation but the sad fact of the matter is that now in 2016 1080p is still not the norm when it comes to console gaming at least and technology at least the very cutting edge stuff is not going to have a 10+ year life. If you were to invest in a super top of the line 4k TV right now in the hopes that you'll be using it with your ps5 in 2020-2025? The chances are that System might not even support the resolution fully in games, even if it does, your 2015 TV would be missing features left, right and centre compared to far more affordable models coming out in 2025. All of this is of course if your top of the line TV from today hasn't died in some way during the next 10 years.

Too big a block of text... eerrr... I'm not a fan of Future proofing, far more of buying for the now and enjoying it then.

 

People who spend more than 1k on TV's are wasting cash. Unless you can afford it, I see no reason to(still a waste. I hate wasting money if there's no reason for doing so).

 

Had a 50 inch 1080p TV for about 5 years(extremely cheap. Only around 600 dollars). Decided to get a 50 inch 4k TV a while ago(only 900ish). I honestly got 4k just for the fact that the 1080p version was only 100 dollars cheaper. 

 

And that's kind of the point. It's cheap enough now that there really is no reason NOT go get a 4k. All you're doing is allowing yourself to experience 4k as well. It's not like 4k doesn't show 1080p content.



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Guitarguy on 10 January 2016
bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:



I personally do NOT see it happening this gen other than in independent games that lack the visual prowess of AAA games. If at all.

And what about PS5 and XBtwo? Should be releasing around 2018 or 2019.

 

There will be much better TVs by then. I would think the PS5 and Xbox 2 could do 4k by then, although I think we will see those consoles in 2020.

Much better? How so? Bigger models might be cheaper, but what if you don't want to buy a $800 tv now and again in 2018? Not many people are going to want to do that.

 

Bigger, higher resolution, less lag, OLED TV's being standard, entirely new technology being implemented, 8K TVs etc. The possibilities are endless.

If you don't want to spend $800 every few years for an awesome gaming TV, that fine, there might be a compromise in image quality compared to the TV's in the next few years but there's no way around that.



bigtakilla on 10 January 2016
Guitarguy said:
bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:



I personally do NOT see it happening this gen other than in independent games that lack the visual prowess of AAA games. If at all.

And what about PS5 and XBtwo? Should be releasing around 2018 or 2019.

 

There will be much better TVs by then. I would think the PS5 and Xbox 2 could do 4k by then, although I think we will see those consoles in 2020.

Much better? How so? Bigger models might be cheaper, but what if you don't want to buy a $800 tv now and again in 2018? Not many people are going to want to do that.

 

Bigger, higher resolution, less lag, OLED 4k TV's being standard, entirely new technology being implemented, 8K TVs etc. The possibilities are endless.

If you don't want to spend $800 every few years for an awesome gaming TV, that fine, there might be a compromise in image quality compared to the TV's in the next few years but there's no way around that.

 

Why buy a PS4 when the PS5 will be around soon enough, and be much better?

See the problem with the whole wait for something better arguement. 

You could wait for 8k, and hell, 8k will probably even be around in 5 years, but 8k at that time will still be in its infancy and cost in the thousands even 5 years from now. 4k will only run you around the same price as a 1080p tv. Come 8 or 9 years you might have to start looking into 8k, plenty of time to get use out of your 4k.



Guitarguy on 10 January 2016
bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:
bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:



I personally do NOT see it happening this gen other than in independent games that lack the visual prowess of AAA games. If at all.

And what about PS5 and XBtwo? Should be releasing around 2018 or 2019.

 

There will be much better TVs by then. I would think the PS5 and Xbox 2 could do 4k by then, although I think we will see those consoles in 2020.

Much better? How so? Bigger models might be cheaper, but what if you don't want to buy a $800 tv now and again in 2018? Not many people are going to want to do that.

 

Bigger, higher resolution, less lag, OLED 4k TV's being standard, entirely new technology being implemented, 8K TVs etc. The possibilities are endless.

If you don't want to spend $800 every few years for an awesome gaming TV, that fine, there might be a compromise in image quality compared to the TV's in the next few years but there's no way around that.

 

Why buy a PS4 when the PS5 will be around soon enough, and be much better?

See the problem with the whole wait for something better arguement. 

You could wait for 8k, and hell, 8k will probably even be around in 5 years, but 8k at that time will still be in its infancy and cost in the thousands even 5 years from now. 4k will only run you around the same price as a 1080p tv. Come 8 or 9 years you might have to start looking into 8k, plenty of time to get use out of your 4k.

 

I see no problem, I upgrade my TV every 2-3years. Problem solved.



bigtakilla on 10 January 2016
Guitarguy said:
bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:
bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:



I personally do NOT see it happening this gen other than in independent games that lack the visual prowess of AAA games. If at all.

And what about PS5 and XBtwo? Should be releasing around 2018 or 2019.

 

There will be much better TVs by then. I would think the PS5 and Xbox 2 could do 4k by then, although I think we will see those consoles in 2020.

Much better? How so? Bigger models might be cheaper, but what if you don't want to buy a $800 tv now and again in 2018? Not many people are going to want to do that.

 

Bigger, higher resolution, less lag, OLED 4k TV's being standard, entirely new technology being implemented, 8K TVs etc. The possibilities are endless.

If you don't want to spend $800 every few years for an awesome gaming TV, that fine, there might be a compromise in image quality compared to the TV's in the next few years but there's no way around that.

 

Why buy a PS4 when the PS5 will be around soon enough, and be much better?

See the problem with the whole wait for something better arguement. 

You could wait for 8k, and hell, 8k will probably even be around in 5 years, but 8k at that time will still be in its infancy and cost in the thousands even 5 years from now. 4k will only run you around the same price as a 1080p tv. Come 8 or 9 years you might have to start looking into 8k, plenty of time to get use out of your 4k.

 

I see no problem, I upgrade my TV every 2-3years. Problem solved.

 

Good?...

Does the OP upgrade every 2 to 3 years? It seems kind of excessive.



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Guitarguy on 10 January 2016
bigtakilla said:

 

Good?...

Does the OP upgrade every 2 to 3 years? It seems kind of excessive.

 


Can't expect the 'ultimate' in technology to last more than a year or two. Just ask high end PC users.



bigtakilla on 10 January 2016
Guitarguy said:
bigtakilla said:

 

Good?...

Does the OP upgrade every 2 to 3 years? It seems kind of excessive.

 


Can't expect the 'ultimate' in technology to last more than a year or two. Just ask high end PC users.

I don't even really expect the "ultimate" in technology to last one year. Ask any owner of an electronic device ever. Even if the tech isn't out, people are very aware what they have isn't the greatest tech out even if they buy what is supposedly the best when its brand new.

If people want to experience 4k, and they don't plan on purchasing another tv for a while (and being the op states his "old panny" is going out on him, I don't think it's a case of getting a tv every 2-3 years) then they should go for a 4k. 





Guitarguy on 10 January 2016
bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:

 


Can't expect the 'ultimate' in technology to last more than a year or two. Just ask high end PC users.

I don't even really expect the "ultimate" in technology to last one year. Ask any owner of an electronic device ever. Even if the tech isn't out, people are very aware what they have isn't the greatest tech out even if they buy what is supposedly the best when its brand new.

If people want to experience 4k, and they don't plan on purchasing another tv for a while (and being the op states his "old panny" is going out on him, I don't think it's a case of getting a tv every 2-3 years) then they should go for a 4k. 

 

Agreed, but only if they are informed that for most/all of this console generation, 4k will have no place in console gaming. I personally would just get an awesome 1080P TV(saving money at the same time by not going 4k) and enjoying it for the console generation and then see where TV's are at in 4-5 years.  4K content will increase in the next few years but the actual PS4/Xbox1 games won't be 4k.

Just want to add that OLED 1080P TV's would be the best format for this console generation but super expensive and not many companies are making them at the moment.



bigtakilla on 10 January 2016
Guitarguy said:
bigtakilla said:
Guitarguy said:

 


Can't expect the 'ultimate' in technology to last more than a year or two. Just ask high end PC users.

I don't even really expect the "ultimate" in technology to last one year. Ask any owner of an electronic device ever. Even if the tech isn't out, people are very aware what they have isn't the greatest tech out even if they buy what is supposedly the best when its brand new.

If people want to experience 4k, and they don't plan on purchasing another tv for a while (and being the op states his "old panny" is going out on him, I don't think it's a case of getting a tv every 2-3 years) then they should go for a 4k. 

 

Agreed, but only if they are informed that for most/all of this console generation, 4k will have no place in console gaming. I personally would just get an awesome 1080P TV(saving money at the same time by not going 4k) and enjoying it for the console generation and then see where TV's are at in 4-5 years.  4K content will increase in the next few years but the actual PS4/Xbox1 games won't be 4k.

Just want to add that OLED 1080P TV's would be the best format for this console generation but super expensive and not many companies are making them at the moment.

 

Agreed. 4k will in no way shape or form be 4k this gen. Other media will be in abundance by this gen's end though.



bigtakilla on 10 January 2016

In fact, I'll help the OP out. It's only 50" but is 4k, 120fps and will run you near the same price.

http://www.hhgregg.com/samsung-50-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv/item/UN50JU6500?cid=PLA-10165781-224495&mr:referralID=4b391877-b775-11e5-a012-005056947d48