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Forums - Nintendo - Yoshi and Lego join wii u small but select 1 million sellers! Update!! Pikmin 3 joins the crowd 26/12/15

Machina said:
S.Peelman said:
Boutros said:
I don't think VGC knows they have been out of print for over a year now lol

I mentioned that on the walls of a couple Wii games. VGC still adds sales every week even though most haven't been getting new shipments for years (which is easily verifiable on Nintendo's ir page by looking through reports). Some now have 100s of k's or even over a million of sales more than they ever shipped. This is probably true fir other publishers as well though I never checked...

Link and page reference please.

The games in the 'Top 10' (or 9 in Wii's case) are the easiest to verify, on this page, going beyond those is a more difficult search. Not all of them apply, but to take a few of those games for example;

Wii Play has sold 28.96m according to VGC, yet shipped 28.02m on Nintendo's page. You can look further through the more detailed reports here. When scrolling back far enough Wii Play's last mentioned with a shipment number of 27.38m in 2009 (page 5, here), which means it never shipped more than a million in any quarter or full year after that (they mention everything that shipped more than a million during the time-frame a specific report encompasses). Since we're still missing a cool 700k to get to Nintendo's final number, we could look for it on the same page using the Waybackmachine (put the url of the Nintendo site in there, it seems I can't link directly from these forums) to look at later dates, though sadly it doesn't go back further than april 2012 for this page. I guess Nintendo put their numbers someplace else before then, but until now I haven't found it yet. In any case, even as late in april 2012, the number for Wii Play was already 28.02 (I guess it stands to reason that the final 700k was shipped in 2010, the year after the final mention in 2009). At the end of the day, the game couldn't have sold more than the 28.02 it already shipped before 2012, while VGC has it crossing that number in 2010, while having it at 28.9m on september 30th of 2015.

So in this case it was likely tracking quite well actually, but should just have stopped at some point.

Then there's Wii Fit which got it's last shipment update in 2012, which the number here is ahead of (just slightly though, which probably means it was too low for quite some time). Old games do get updated as they get new shipments, because they still update Wii Sports/Resort and Mario Kart and others to this day, and they have always been consistent between those top 10 pages and the official reports when they're mentioned in both. There's also a thread on Gaf where people compiled all the shipment data from apparently all those IR reports, though obviously I personally didn't verify all that. I take it the algorithms for the sales don't know when certain games stop getting shipments, and at one point go on to count too far.

Anyway, I do admit I was a bit colorful in that post, it isn't that dramatic and Wii Play is by far the worst offender on the Wii and I don't know about Lego City, but there's more like this on the DS however. At a glance the Pokémon games, Animal Crossing and the Brain Trainings have been counted past their expiration dates.

Lastly, to shoehorn this in again since we're on the subject: Similarly, Sony never shipped past 102.49m of the original PlayStation as evidenced here: http://scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps_e.html (also as seen in the Waybackmachine), so who made and sold VGC's extra ~2m of this console?  



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2 more games make a mil on the Wii U? Good to hear! There's 2 more for the lil console that could... x )



 

              

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Nogamez said:
Teeqoz said:

 

So you combine SKUs for the Nintendo game, but you take the individual SKUs for the non-Nintendo games. Seems legit :-3

Has any Lego games released on PS vita? If so add them to the PS numbers for 8th gem. 



 

I'm not sure, but I know tons have been released on the XBO...

(After a quick check, yes, quite a lot of Lego games have been released on PS Vita)



Teeqoz said:
Nogamez said:

Has any Lego games released on PS vita? If so add them to the PS numbers for 8th gem. 



 

I'm not sure, but I know tons have been released on the XBO...

(After a quick check, yes, quite a lot of Lego games have been released on PS Vita)

 

OK we'll my point was the highest selling 8th gen Lego games was Lego marvel ps4 followed by Lego city 3ds then Lego city wiiu,  so I think the sales justify a sequel (but then I don't know the costs involved, but they have the original engine now)



Nogamez said:
oniyide said:

 

you kidding? most of the Lego games do at least a mil or way more on individual SKUS

Not on 8th gen consoles they haven't! Obviously on Wii.360, and ps3 they sold like hotcakes. On 8th gen only two games have made over 1 million: Lego marvel heroes on ps4 at 1.5m and Lego undercover at 2.38 million on wii u/3ds. I think that figure allows for a sequel surely

oh! thats makes way more sense, you didnt specify gen (if you did, my bad) I dont know i imagine they were expecting more i mean it has been out for a while and the Wii U version (the main one) only just got a mil. Lego Marvel Heroes did more in less time (it is multiplat so it probably isnt a fair comparison)

I want there to be a sequel but i dont think there will be at least not exclusive. 





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Twilight Princess HD, Pokken Tournament, and Zelda U should cross the million mark as well when all's said and done.



curl-6 said:

Twilight Princess HD, Pokken Tournament, and Zelda U should cross the million mark as well when all's said and done.

 

Pikmin and zombiu may push it out too, and xenoblade if we lucky



Nintendo sure is raking in the cash for all its software.

 

 



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Nogamez said:
curl-6 said:

Twilight Princess HD, Pokken Tournament, and Zelda U should cross the million mark as well when all's said and done.

 

Pikmin and zombiu may push it out too, and xenoblade if we lucky

I think those games will get there for shure, also star fox zero and bayonetta 2. kirby rainbow curse might leg it out if its undertracked. Another 2 or three unannounced games could do it, fast racing neo with a retail release, maybe yooka laylee and minecraft too.





Thunderbird77 said:
Nogamez said:

 

Pikmin and zombiu may push it out too, and xenoblade if we lucky

I think those games will get there for shure, also star fox zero and bayonetta 2. kirby rainbow curse might leg it out if its undertracked. Another 2 or three unannounced games could do it, fast racing neo with a retail release, maybe yooka laylee and minecraft too.

Bayonetta 2 is also currently out of print in NA. Maybe Nintendo will make more copies since there's a lot of interest lately because of Smash but if they don't then I don't see it reaching anywhere near one million especially with how overtracked it is in NA.