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Jranation said:
Poliwrathlord said:
This comment section is great! Keep up the good work everybody!

Im afraid this might get locked soon......... Especially how the main topic/point of this thread is the software+hardware sold in Japan on the Final/First week of 2015/2016. 

But its great to see how much people can write here (Its like almost an Essay!). I always shorten my responses. 



I agree. It truly is entertaining to see how well people can present their essays (makes me wish that I could write persuasive essays better).





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Poliwrathlord said:
Jranation said:

Im afraid this might get locked soon......... Especially how the main topic/point of this thread is the software+hardware sold in Japan on the Final/First week of 2015/2016. 

But its great to see how much people can write here (Its like almost an Essay!). I always shorten my responses. 



I agree. It truly is entertaining to see how well people can present their essays (makes me wish that I could write persuasive essays better).



lol, I usually prefer to avoid these things. Especially when it involves certain users, doesn't matter how much fact is in your essay against those users they'll still ignore your point. Then you realize you typed it all up for nothing. Its better to stay as you are trust me.





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RolStoppable said:
OneKartVita said:

I'm not talking about it as it was. It's perfectly valid say if Sony didn't up the design it would have sold better.  As for the software it's a valid point. 

My stance isn't biased,  it's factual.  the WiiU has most of Nintendos console big hitters.  Where are the other 90m Nintendo fans now? They won't be coming back either.  

You took issue with me saying that the PS3 couldn't have sold much more than it did, but at the same time you claim that the Wii couldn't have sold more than it did. That's unreasonable and biased because the third party support was clearly lopsided in the PS3's favor. Not much to gain for the PS3, but a lot for the Wii.

The Wii U is irrelevant here, just like an extension of the discussion to a worldwide scale.

 

You're basically admitting you were biased by saying the ps3 sold to its maximum. It didn't get Playstations 3Rd party support because Sony has better relations.  If you're going to bring that up how can you ignore the other factors like ps2 games the Ps3 lost,  massive price disadvantage to the Wii and no motion control fad early on.  

 

I can admit the Wii could have sold more but you're fooling nobody saying the ps3 couldn't.  And you called me bias! 



Goodnightmoon said:
OneKartVita said:
RolStoppable said:
OneKartVita said:

The 3DS and DS got many big name games that the ps4 could have gotten.  Imagine ps3 kept the mainline games the ps2 had like dragon quest, yokai watch,  monster hunter,  Kingdom Hearts etc.  Don't even try and say it wouldn't sell a few million more.  

That's games but also consider price.  The Wii was dead cheap.  The ps3 was a rip off.  It never even got down to a really low price.  If it got $100 cheaper it would have sold many more.  

You cannot possibly argue the ps3 sold the most it possibly could. 

We can't change the hardware because we were talking about how much the hardware as it is could have potentially sold. As for the software...

OneKartVita said:

Obviously the massive influx of casuals has a knock on effect.  

The gamecube and Wii U prove how small the core base really is.  The whole point I'm making is the Wii in Japan definitely didn't under sell its potential.  It just died when the fad died down.  

...your stance is incredibly biased.

 

I'm not talking about it as it was. It's perfectly valid say if Sony didn't up the design it would have sold better.  As for the software it's a valid point. 

 

My stance isn't biased,  it's factual.  the WiiU has most of Nintendos console big hitters.  Where are the other 90m Nintendo fans now? They won't be coming back either.  

You know shit about what you are saying, what happens with the 3DS then? In an age where hanhelds are dying is gonna sell 70m, but sure now you are gonna get another number out of your ass and say that only 15 milions of 3ds owners are "dedicated users" just because you say so, half of my nintendo fans friends (and there are a alot) dont had the wiiu, yet all of them had the wii, almost all of them have the 3DS though, WiiU had a terrible marketing and a poor line up on launch, it is the most expensive Nintendo console, later it had a terrible press everywhere, then it lost third party support, then everyone was talking about how doomed the console was and finally Zelda was delayed, tons of fans were wating for Zelda,but it didnt come, there has been a lot of insecurity around the console and many didn buy it but Wiiu dont have all Nintendo fans on it, not even close, you are just being extremely biased in your arguments like always. 

 

Oh lawd,  the irony is killing me with this one.  

 

First off don't accuse me of pulling numbers out of my ass and then go and use your personal friends to describe what the general state of millions of fans.  

 

Secondly for the record I think 3DS sales are very good especially considering mobile has taken over.  Dony put words in my mouth. 

 

Zelda will do sweet fuck all.  There's already Zelda games released on the Wii U that many Zelda fans bit for.  it wouldn't magically save the Wii U if the next game was already out.  

 

Finally Nintendo haven't had proper 3Rd party support since Sony took it from then due to their far superior relations.  The Wii got a shit ton of shovelware and cash in ports.  The gamers that generally want 3Rd party games are on pc / xb / ps. Nintendo will never get it back.  So that's just a biased pipe dream. 



princevenom said:
the last great nintendo console was gamecube imo and i hated both wii and wiiu i hope nintendo will remove the wii brand anyway i can't wait to see nx this year

Yeah. I think they mentioned about dropping the Wii Brand. 





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Thunderbird77 said:
Dr.Vita said:

Because we all know it will outsell the Wii in lifetime numbers and it will have much much better legs than the Wii.

Want to bet on that? Cause it's not gonna happen.

It'll take something really bad for this not to happen, and the industry will have seen such a huge generational recession.

I think PS4 ending around Wii is pretty plausible, but there's no where near enough evidence to bet against it. Especially considering, that support is increasing, not decreasing (and still is more expensive than the Wii was at launch).



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Just for the record I think the Wii sales were great and overall the console sold like a beast. Some people misunderstanding what I'm saying but oh well.

So here's a question. Do people think the Wii U will beat the gamecube in Japan? It needs to sell another million. if it gets a replacement this year it could be hard.



I agree with OneKartVita and Dr.Vita



Thunderbird77 said:

Splatoon will surpass Mario kart 8 next week or one week after that, AMAZING!

Great hold for Wii U, much better than previous years. Also, 3 000 000!

 

A New IP beating MK8 is Just WOW!!!! 



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RolStoppable said:
OneKartVita said:

You're basically admitting you were biased by saying the ps3 sold to its maximum. It didn't get Playstations 3Rd party support because Sony has better relations.  If you're going to bring that up how can you ignore the other factors like ps2 games the Ps3 lost,  massive price disadvantage to the Wii and no motion control fad early on.  

 

I can admit the Wii could have sold more but you're fooling nobody saying the ps3 couldn't.  And you called me bias! 

I may have said "upper limit" and "lower limit" in my first post, but in my second I had already clarified that I didn't mean it absolutely literally. The PS3 could have got more games and the Wii could have got less, so sales could have been better/worse.

 

Glad we finally agree.  That original comment really hadn't a solid foundation.  

 

Anyway for those interested here is the GC vs Wii U comparison.  http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=191679398