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Goodnightmoon said:
OneKartVita said:
RolStoppable said:
OneKartVita said:

The 3DS and DS got many big name games that the ps4 could have gotten.  Imagine ps3 kept the mainline games the ps2 had like dragon quest, yokai watch,  monster hunter,  Kingdom Hearts etc.  Don't even try and say it wouldn't sell a few million more.  

That's games but also consider price.  The Wii was dead cheap.  The ps3 was a rip off.  It never even got down to a really low price.  If it got $100 cheaper it would have sold many more.  

You cannot possibly argue the ps3 sold the most it possibly could. 

We can't change the hardware because we were talking about how much the hardware as it is could have potentially sold. As for the software...

OneKartVita said:

Obviously the massive influx of casuals has a knock on effect.  

The gamecube and Wii U prove how small the core base really is.  The whole point I'm making is the Wii in Japan definitely didn't under sell its potential.  It just died when the fad died down.  

...your stance is incredibly biased.

 

I'm not talking about it as it was. It's perfectly valid say if Sony didn't up the design it would have sold better.  As for the software it's a valid point. 

 

My stance isn't biased,  it's factual.  the WiiU has most of Nintendos console big hitters.  Where are the other 90m Nintendo fans now? They won't be coming back either.  

You know shit about what you are saying, what happens with the 3DS then? In an age where hanhelds are dying is gonna sell 70m, but sure now you are gonna get another number out of your ass and say that only 15 milions of 3ds owners are "dedicated users" just because you say so, half of my nintendo fans friends (and there are a alot) dont had the wiiu, yet all of them had the wii, almost all of them have the 3DS though, WiiU had a terrible marketing and a poor line up on launch, it is the most expensive Nintendo console, later it had a terrible press everywhere, then it lost third party support, then everyone was talking about how doomed the console was and finally Zelda was delayed, tons of fans were wating for Zelda,but it didnt come, there has been a lot of insecurity around the console and many didn buy it but Wiiu dont have all Nintendo fans on it, not even close, you are just being extremely biased in your arguments like always. 

 

Oh lawd,  the irony is killing me with this one.  

 

First off don't accuse me of pulling numbers out of my ass and then go and use your personal friends to describe what the general state of millions of fans.  

 

Secondly for the record I think 3DS sales are very good especially considering mobile has taken over.  Dony put words in my mouth. 

 

Zelda will do sweet fuck all.  There's already Zelda games released on the Wii U that many Zelda fans bit for.  it wouldn't magically save the Wii U if the next game was already out.  

 

Finally Nintendo haven't had proper 3Rd party support since Sony took it from then due to their far superior relations.  The Wii got a shit ton of shovelware and cash in ports.  The gamers that generally want 3Rd party games are on pc / xb / ps. Nintendo will never get it back.  So that's just a biased pipe dream.