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Teeqoz on 08 January 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Teeqoz said:

 

Yes it has.

It is on par with the fourth year, it did not outsold it, or at least not by a lot, and is pretty far from the 2nd year of Wii.

 

It outsold its fouth year, doesn't really matter if it's by a lot or not. Just wanted to point that out. Just change the statement to 2nd and 3rd year instead, and we're good



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Dr.Vita on 08 January 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Dr.Vita said:
Goodnightmoon said:
OneKartVita said:


The Wii was a once off fad that people got bored of and moved on.  

No, some of you want to see the wii like a console that sold only to soccer moms that played Wii sorts for a week and they forgot about it, but thats because some of you just dont want to recognise that Nintendo won. I may have to remember you that wii sold: 

-2007: 16.5m
-2008: 24 m
-2009: 21m
-2010: 17m
 

The console was selling like a beast 4 consecutive years, Ps3 and Xb360 never reached those highs in all their lifes, so much for being a "fad", and even when the console went down in 2011, it still sold more than WiiU in all its life, if the interest for the console was so short, then how the hell was selling more than Ps4 even on its 4th year? And how they sold +10 m of units on its lowest year before its succesor? Sounds just like excuses to me.

 

Amazing numbers, but in the end only the lifetime numbers count and not the numbers achieved in one year, right?
Take a look at the hardware lifetime numbers, Wii only beat PS3 with a gap less than 15M. 15M is not much, especially not enough to call Wii the beast of the 7th generation like a lot people do. A beast would be the PS2, it outsold ALL the competition 3x in lifetime numbers.
Oh and in the end PS3 sold more software than Wii, though I remember that the Wii was the most heavily bundled console ever with games like Wii Sports or Mario Kart Wii.

Being the third highest selling console of all time is to sell like beast, you can call it what you want, but those are some beast sales, Ps4 is already considered a beast yet it hasnt outsold the 2, 3 or 4 year of Wii, so if Ps4 is a beast for that, then wii is of course also a beast.

 

Because we all know it will outsell the Wii in lifetime numbers and it will have much much better legs than the Wii.




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Goodnightmoon on 08 January 2016
Dr.Vita said:
Goodnightmoon said:
Dr.Vita said:
Goodnightmoon said:
OneKartVita said:


The Wii was a once off fad that people got bored of and moved on.  

No, some of you want to see the wii like a console that sold only to soccer moms that played Wii sorts for a week and they forgot about it, but thats because some of you just dont want to recognise that Nintendo won. I may have to remember you that wii sold: 

-2007: 16.5m
-2008: 24 m
-2009: 21m
-2010: 17m
 

The console was selling like a beast 4 consecutive years, Ps3 and Xb360 never reached those highs in all their lifes, so much for being a "fad", and even when the console went down in 2011, it still sold more than WiiU in all its life, if the interest for the console was so short, then how the hell was selling more than Ps4 even on its 4th year? And how they sold +10 m of units on its lowest year before its succesor? Sounds just like excuses to me.

 

Amazing numbers, but in the end only the lifetime numbers count and not the numbers achieved in one year, right?
Take a look at the hardware lifetime numbers, Wii only beat PS3 with a gap less than 15M. 15M is not much, especially not enough to call Wii the beast of the 7th generation like a lot people do. A beast would be the PS2, it outsold ALL the competition 3x in lifetime numbers.
Oh and in the end PS3 sold more software than Wii, though I remember that the Wii was the most heavily bundled console ever with games like Wii Sports or Mario Kart Wii.

Being the third highest selling console of all time is to sell like beast, you can call it what you want, but those are some beast sales, Ps4 is already considered a beast yet it hasnt outsold the 2, 3 or 4 year of Wii, so if Ps4 is a beast for that, then wii is of course also a beast.

 

Because we all know it will outsell the Wii in lifetime numbers and it will have much much better legs than the Wii.

Look dude, if you are trying to say that 100m is not beast sales, you are already showing everyone how low is your credibility. Nothing more, nothing less.





Dr.Vita on 08 January 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Dr.Vita said:

 

Sorry but I don't think that you know what you are talking about.
Wii U gets a lot ads here in Germany, tbh even more than PS4 and Xbox One, but the most people just doesn't care for it because they know that it is the same thing like the Wii and this is true. 

Nintendo tries everything to sell the Wii U to the people, just take a look at the big games which released this year in Japan for Wii U. Xenoblade Chronicles X got a bundle, Super Mario Maker got a bundle and Splatoon got a bundle. Yeah, of course terrible marketing...

You are the first person of the history of this forums that says WiiU had a lot of marketing, and the first on the history of ever that says it had more than Ps4 and XBO, so that's your credibility, in my experience, I had to explain a ton of people with a Wii what a WiiU was because they didnt know shit about it even on 2015. Yeah, marketing everywere.

 

This is not what I mean. With ads I meant TV ads. I mean that Wii U has more ads than PS4 and Xbox One but not the better marketing. I see more Wii U ads than PS4 and Xbox One ads in the TV. 

Playstation 4 and Xbox One have of course the better marketing because there is much much more hype for them and there are also much more bigger and better games coming to them than to the Wii U.

But to say that the Nintendo marketing for Wii U is terrible, is completely wrong imo, because it is still getting bundles and TV ads. Just because almost nobody is hyped, doesn't mean that Nintendo isn't trying to market the console.




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Dr.Vita on 08 January 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Dr.Vita said:

 

Because we all know it will outsell the Wii in lifetime numbers and it will have much much better legs than the Wii.

Look dude, if you are trying to say that 100m is not beast sales, you are already showing everyone how low is your credibility. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

100M are not beast sales if we compare them to PS2 lifetime numbers, which is the true beast.
PS1 sold more than the Wii and nobody ever mentioned that PS1 is a beast, because it is not a beast.
Nobody here is saying that Wii sold bad, Wii sold amazing. But you guys are trying to tell us that the Wii was the ultimate beast which was the best selling console for 3 years but you can't recognize that it dropped after that. And again, the only thing which counts in the end is the lifetime number.




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Thunderbird77 on 08 January 2016
OneKartVita said:
uran10 said:
OneKartVita said:

 

The Wii had a solid hardcore userbase but the majority of it was there for the 3/4 years of motion control fad.  That's gone and you see what's left with the Wii.  About 15m users.  

 

My point is that the Wii in Japan most certainly didn't sell to the minimum of its potential and the ps3 definitely did.  

Um are you serious right now? Please tell me you're not serious. I don't even know where to start with this messed up logic. Are you really counting the first 3-4 years as Motion control fad and saying that the 15M after were the ones who cared, in other words when the console was at its end is when the people who wanted it for the "hardcore" games picked it up? i'm sorry but this argument does not hold up and it never will.


Isn't it ironic how you claimed I was missing someone's point and now you're missing mine.

 

I'm not talking about the 15m Wii's that were sold after the mass market got bored of motion controls, I'm talking about the 15m Wii U's that will be sold this gen. I know a million or two likely still wanted the gimmicky motion games but most of the Wii U install base are core Nintendo gamers.  

 

So yeah once you eliminate everyone who jumped on the bandwagon for the motion thing you're not left with a huge core gamer install base. 

That shows how you don't understand the market. consumers shift all the time, a video game decreasing in sales isn't composed of people who "stayed", it's the people who were interested in it regardless of previous systems.You're also in for another terrible surprise if you think wii u will only sell 15m lifetime.





uran10 on 08 January 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Dr.Vita said:

 

Because we all know it will outsell the Wii in lifetime numbers and it will have much much better legs than the Wii.

Look dude, if you are trying to say that 100m is not beast sales, you are already showing everyone how low is your credibility. Nothing more, nothing less.

Have some advice, don't argue with these guys you'll get nowhere. Anyone who says 100M isn't beast sales when so few consoles have ever passed that mark is just playing to their own agenda.





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Thunderbird77 on 08 January 2016
Dr.Vita said:
Goodnightmoon said:
Dr.Vita said:

 

Amazing numbers, but in the end only the lifetime numbers count and not the numbers achieved in one year, right?
Take a look at the hardware lifetime numbers, Wii only beat PS3 with a gap less than 15M. 15M is not much, especially not enough to call Wii the beast of the 7th generation like a lot people do. A beast would be the PS2, it outsold ALL the competition 3x in lifetime numbers.
Oh and in the end PS3 sold more software than Wii, though I remember that the Wii was the most heavily bundled console ever with games like Wii Sports or Mario Kart Wii.

Being the third highest selling console of all time is to sell like beast, you can call it what you want, but those are some beast sales, Ps4 is already considered a beast yet it hasnt outsold the 2, 3 or 4 year of Wii, so if Ps4 is a beast for that, then wii is of course also a beast.

 

Because we all know it will outsell the Wii in lifetime numbers and it will have much much better legs than the Wii.

Want to bet on that? Cause it's not gonna happen.





Goodnightmoon on 08 January 2016
Dr.Vita said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Look dude, if you are trying to say that 100m is not beast sales, you are already showing everyone how low is your credibility. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

100M are not beast sales if we compare them to PS2 lifetime numbers, which is the true beast.
PS1 sold more than the Wii and nobody ever mentioned that PS1 is a beast, because it is not a beast.
Nobody here is saying that Wii sold bad, Wii sold amazing. But you guys are trying to tell us that the Wii was the ultimate beast which was the best selling console for 3 years but you can't recognize that it dropped after that. And again, the only thing which counts in the end is the lifetime number.

So there can only be one beast XDDD thats so dumb, I dont understand why only the best selling console is considered a beast, but OK, I guess Ps2 is the only beast ever lol, and btw, Sony has never been really a beast selling then, when was the last gen they sold 250 milions of consoles? Oh yeah, never, Nintendo did it last gen, and following your logic there is only one possible beast so...





Thunderbird77 on 08 January 2016
Dr.Vita said:
Goodnightmoon said:
OneKartVita said:


The Wii was a once off fad that people got bored of and moved on.  

No, some of you want to see the wii like a console that sold only to soccer moms that played Wii sorts for a week and they forgot about it, but thats because some of you just dont want to recognise that Nintendo won. I may have to remember you that wii sold: 

-2007: 16.5m
-2008: 24 m
-2009: 21m
-2010: 17m
 

The console was selling like a beast 4 consecutive years, Ps3 and Xb360 never reached those highs in all their lifes, so much for being a "fad", and even when the console went down in 2011, it still sold more than WiiU in all its life, if the interest for the console was so short, then how the hell was selling more than Ps4 even on its 4th year? And how they sold +10 m of units on its lowest year before its succesor? Sounds just like excuses to me.

 

Amazing numbers, but in the end only the lifetime numbers count and not the numbers achieved in one year, right?
Take a look at the hardware lifetime numbers, Wii only beat PS3 with a gap less than 15M. 15M is not much, especially not enough to call Wii the beast of the 7th generation like a lot people do. A beast would be the PS2, it outsold ALL the competition 3x in lifetime numbers.
Oh and in the end PS3 sold more software than Wii, though I remember that the Wii was the most heavily bundled console ever with games like Wii Sports or Mario Kart Wii.

Counting broken ps3's the gap is bigger. The gap was only partially closed because nintendo stopped support for wii, making sales quickly decrease.

You talk about ps3 selling more software. Not only the difference is small, isn't it too easy to sell more games when more games are released? Still took long after wii stopped getting games untill ps3 software passed it. You ended proving just how much of a software seller wii was, almost as much as the competitors even while missing on over a hundred multiplatforms.