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Forums - Nintendo - Has Monolith surpassed Retro Studio as new Nintendo elite studio?

 

Wich one?

I prefer Monolith 240 52.06%
 
I prefer Retro Studio 221 47.94%
 
Total:461
curl-6 2 days ago
Wyrdness said:
curl-6 said:

The two have been trading blows for a while really; on Wii Prime 3 and Xenoblade Chronicles were both great but Xenoblade was a bit better, on Wii U Tropical Freeze was better than Xenoblade Chronicles X, and on Switch Xenoblade 2/3 and Prime 4 are pretty similar in quality, but 2 games beats 1.

Disagree, XCX was way more of an achievement than TF, the latter is considered on of the best 2d platformers yes but XCX is also considered among the best open worlds in a competitive era for that space the game as seen with the DE version not only holds up against games today but still does things others haven't. Monolith all the while was also working on BOTW with Nintendo and XBC2 which they achieved with a smaller than usual team in two years, WiiU is when Monolith caught up and over took Retro. Monolith's output also includes AC, MK World, Splatoon etc... they're developing their projects while being instrumental in others.

Retro were ahead back on the Wii due to DKCR and the Prime games but then Monolith had only just been purchased.

X I respect enormously in terms of its incredible world and insanely impressive engineering, but for me its weak story and gameplay padding made it a lesser game than TF which was pure platforming heaven.

Still a good game though.



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CaptainExplosion 2 days ago

Has Monolith worked on any platformers for Nintendo?



JackHandy 2 days ago

Retro hasn't been elite to me since the Gamecube. Like Rare before them, they had their time, and that was that, albeit far shorter in length. Funny thing is, after this latest game, it kind of puts them in the same category: formerly great, now just mediocre.



Leynos 2 days ago
CaptainExplosion said:

Has Monolith worked on any platformers for Nintendo?

Do you consider Xenoblade X platforming up mountains count? lol

I think one of the few times they did not do an RPG was Disaster Day of Crisis and pre Nintendo worked on Dirge of Cerberus on PS2...that game was ass. But it was more of a shooter. Now can you say Retro has made any RPGs?

Monolith and Retro used to be great. They still are but they used to be as well...except for Dirge lol but they did do Xenosaga which was fantastic.

Last edited by Leynos - 2 days ago

Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

curl-6 2 days ago
JackHandy said:

Retro hasn't been elite to me since the Gamecube. Like Rare before them, they had their time, and that was that, albeit far shorter in length. Funny thing is, after this latest game, it kind of puts them in the same category: formerly great, now just mediocre.

Nah, Prime 4 isn't their best game but it shits on anything Rare have made since the N64 tbh.

Tropical Freeze and Prime 3 were phenomenal also I'd say.



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JackHandy 2 days ago
curl-6 said:
JackHandy said:

Retro hasn't been elite to me since the Gamecube. Like Rare before them, they had their time, and that was that, albeit far shorter in length. Funny thing is, after this latest game, it kind of puts them in the same category: formerly great, now just mediocre.

Nah, Prime 4 isn't their best game but it shits on anything Rare have made since the N64 tbh.

Tropical Freeze and Prime 3 were phenomenal also I'd say.

That's your opinion, not mine lol. If you can't take a franchise of that quality and produce greatness, you're in trouble. And double that if you're the studio that once made Metroid Prime. Something has happened to them between the then and the now. And until I see a return to glory, I'm going to have to consider them done.



CaptainExplosion 2 days ago
curl-6 said:
JackHandy said:

Retro hasn't been elite to me since the Gamecube. Like Rare before them, they had their time, and that was that, albeit far shorter in length. Funny thing is, after this latest game, it kind of puts them in the same category: formerly great, now just mediocre.

Nah, Prime 4 isn't their best game but it shits on anything Rare have made since the N64 tbh.

Tropical Freeze and Prime 3 were phenomenal also I'd say.

Best Donkey Kong Country game since DKC2.



curl-6 2 days ago
JackHandy said:
curl-6 said:

Nah, Prime 4 isn't their best game but it shits on anything Rare have made since the N64 tbh.

Tropical Freeze and Prime 3 were phenomenal also I'd say.

That's your opinion, not mine lol. If you can't take a franchise of that quality and produce greatness, you're in trouble. And double that if you're the studio that once made Metroid Prime. Something has happened to them between the then and the now. And until I see a return to glory, I'm going to have to consider them done.

Very few studios on the planet are capable of delivering games on par with Prime 1-3. If Retro were done then Prime 4 would be bad; it isn't, not remotely, it's still a well made and enjoyable 8.5/10 game.



Leynos 2 days ago

What does it even mean return to glory outside of 'it's not like the game I like?' attitude. Meh.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

JackHandy 2 days ago
curl-6 said:
JackHandy said:

That's your opinion, not mine lol. If you can't take a franchise of that quality and produce greatness, you're in trouble. And double that if you're the studio that once made Metroid Prime. Something has happened to them between the then and the now. And until I see a return to glory, I'm going to have to consider them done.

Very few studios on the planet are capable of delivering games on par with Prime 1-3. If Retro were done then Prime 4 would be bad; it isn't, not remotely, it's still a well made and enjoyable 8.5/10 game.

Whether it's bad or not is up for debate. I think it's awful. You don't. But regardless, it's clear they've slipped from MP1. That game was the FPS of that generation, imo. Halo had it beat with local multiplayer, sure. But MP1 beat it in every other way. A masterpiece. MP4 is not a masterpiece.