curl-6 said:
I got mine! :P
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Wiimote V2? | |||
| Yes | 90 | 29.70% | |
| No | 171 | 56.44% | |
| I don't care as long as ... | 42 | 13.86% | |
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curl-6 said:
I got mine! :P
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I'd actually like for Ninten to go back to the game cube controller. Such an excellent controller never to be used to again. That's one of the best and worst things about Ninten. They're often changing things up with their hardware and software, even when sometimes they get it right...



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| Cloudman said: I'd actually like for Ninten to go back to the game cube controller. Such an excellent controller never to be used to again. That's one of the best and worst things about Ninten. They're often changing things up with their hardware and software, even when sometimes they get it right... |
Oh god, not the gamecube controller.
It's as if they were playing a game to see how many buttons you can place on a controller.
I prefer Nintendo's offcial Wii U pro controller. Efficient and usable for everyone. If Nintendo improves the controller(or makes it cheaper), I honestly would just get 4 pro controllers and forgot the wii remote.
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hershel_layton said:
It's as if they were playing a game to see how many buttons you can place on a controller.
I prefer Nintendo's offcial Wii U pro controller. Efficient and usable for everyone. If Nintendo improves the controller(or makes it cheaper), I honestly would just get 4 pro controllers and forgot the wii remote. |
I prefer the GC one myself. If fits like a glove, with all the essentials lining up with my hands and thumbs. Nothing feels comfier than that one x )
The pro controller feels good too, but I don't like how they switched the c stick for the buttons. It feels as if my thumb has to stretch for the buttons, and the layout doesn't feel as recognizable as the GC's one. I can tell what the A, B, Y and X buttons are by their shapes and sizes. Since the pro controller's buttons are the same, and further from my thumb, I make more mistakes with it. I would have adapted, if Ninten didn't release the GC adapter for Smash Bros... xD



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hershel_layton said:
It's as if they were playing a game to see how many buttons you can place on a controller.
I prefer Nintendo's offcial Wii U pro controller. Efficient and usable for everyone. If Nintendo improves the controller(or makes it cheaper), I honestly would just get 4 pro controllers and forgot the wii remote. |
... The GC controller has one less button than the PS2/PS3/XB/XB360...
And that's not counting stick clicks.
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curl-6 said:
Xenoblade Chronicles X would indeed have been impossible on Wii, (or any last gen system) but here's the thing; the Wii original is a better game in spite of its more limited horsepower. Similarly, Mario Galaxy is better than 3D World despite running on far weaker hardware. More horsepower means more options, but it doesn't guarantee that these options will result in a better experience. A lot of great art uses a limited array of colours or techniques, while anyone can throw a hundred colours on a piece of canvas and produce nothing but a mess. Every system has tons of shitty games; I tend to buy and play the good ones. Prime 3 used more than just the pointer; both tilt and motion were used for various actions. And if it's examples of motion-controlled games without Motion Plus you want, I'd point to Zack & Wiki, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, Medal of Honor Heroes 2, LostWinds 1 and 2, and Shaun White Snowboarding... |
Chronicles X wouldnt be able to run the way it is on the WIi that is a fact, there would be a version of it but i can imagine they would have to cut stuff and it would look worse. Wii U is stronger than Wii, X could run on PS360. More options is never a bad thing, its better to have it than not. Its not like the PS4 and Xone arent having colorful games cause of its power.
IMHO none of those games really required motion, they would have been fine without it, which is kind of my point the whole thing did a poor job of really showing motion capabilities which is why its all but dead. A game will be good no matter what control scheme you use, but a crap game will still be crap and Wii had a lot of crap (im looking at all the Wiisports knockoffs)
bowserthedog said:
Well.. I think by all accounts the 3ds is a major success. Due to smartphones there is no longer a casual market for dedicated hanhelds but the system effectively survived when the Vita fell off. And the 3ds is actually growing year over year in america this year largely due to the enhanced 3d and the New 3ds. The dedicated hanheld market is basically returning to what is used to be before the ds expanded the market beyond core gamers. That expanded market is now gone. Well the thing about the wii was that it didn't get too many ports of 3rd party games. You really needed to create a game from the ground up to do well on the system. It would have been a lot of work to port down some of those fighting games to it and due to the fact that core gamers who owned a wii also owned one or both (in my base both) of the other systems there would be no incentive to buy those games on wii due to the lack of online features and poor graphics. But there were some gems in the fighting genre which were exclusive to the system and it was essential to gamers who wanted to play the best 3 or 4 fighting games available. Two of which were exclusive to wii. It would be foolhearty right now to base a whole system around VR. But eventually I think we will want the best of the best dev's making their best work for it. It has a chance to be something pretty big. And i don't think you can criticize Nintendo's decisions on the wii as being foolhearty. They made more profit in their peak year on Wii than sony and microsoft made off the entire generation combined. (yeah i know that's hard to back up but it's likely true) |
by Ninty's own accounts you would be wrong. You just dont cut the price of a system you just launched beause its a success, hard to spin that one. Dont know why the Vita was brought in, as the situation would ahve been largely the same anyway. America is not the world, im judging by sales as a WHOLE, and as a whole it has gone down. 3ds is actually on track to sell less than GBA and it will be on the market longer. SO its not even returning to its former glory.
I know all that, and that was due to it being essentially an overclocked GC, thats what is was. That one is on Ninty and it doesnt help that there standard controller would be a no no for those types of games. So your Capcoms and Namcos wouldnt even try and i cant blame them. Tvs.C was ported from arcade as the board they used for that game is the same in Wii so realy easy port(to bad servers are down) none of those games were essential. Smash for Wii wasnt even played competitvely, not like Melee or even the new one is. Tvs.C you're giving that game too much credit, its not like it sold gangbusters, and you cant even play online, damn near all the fighting games on last gen systems are still being played.
Ok and, what now? they are getting beat left right and center. I get it, they tried something and it worked. if im being honest i dont care how much they made, cause at the end of the day its not like the money translated into better games, the system kept getting shovelware, the motion controller tech kept sucking and when they did actually did improve it they barely supported it. Now we have Wii U...(which i actually like)
Azuren said:
... The GC controller has one less button than the PS2/PS3/XB/XB360... And that's not counting stick clicks. |

What I meant was that I think they horrible placed the buttons for the gamecube. People may like the way it was designed, but I didn't. I never liked the gamecube much because the controller was never comfortable for me
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| oniyide said: by Ninty's own accounts you would be wrong. You just dont cut the price of a system you just launched beause its a success, hard to spin that one.
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So it wasn't a success in its first 5 months which means that it can't be considered a success now? That's some weird logic
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oniyide said:
Chronicles X wouldnt be able to run the way it is on the WIi that is a fact, there would be a version of it but i can imagine they would have to cut stuff and it would look worse. Wii U is stronger than Wii, X could run on PS360. More options is never a bad thing, its better to have it than not. Its not like the PS4 and Xone arent having colorful games cause of its power. IMHO none of those games really required motion, they would have been fine without it, which is kind of my point the whole thing did a poor job of really showing motion capabilities which is why its all but dead. A game will be good no matter what control scheme you use, but a crap game will still be crap and Wii had a lot of crap (im looking at all the Wiisports knockoffs) |
PS360 have less than half as much RAM as Wii U, and Chronicles X is a memory bound game. Could you make a version of it for PS3/360? Sure. But you would have to reduce its memory footprint by over 50%, which would necessitate reducing asset density and quality, etc.
And sure, it's nice to have options, but power and game quality often do not correlate. For example, The original Xbox was much more powerful than the PS2, yet most would argue the PS2 had a better library.
I can say for sure I would not have enjoyed any of those games as much without motion controls, and the same goes for most of the system's best games, like Mario Galaxy 1 + 2, Prime 3, Skyward Sword, etc. Hell, when given the option, I play Wii U games like Tropical Freeze and Black Ops 2/Ghosts with the Wiimote.