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Forums - Movies & TV - The Force Awakens Box Office Thread: $1,73B

brute on 11 January 2016
DakonBlackblade said:
brute said:

Not sure about the Chine Yuan since boxofficemojo has yet to update that part, but regarding the GBP and AU dolalrs, they were both HEAVILY in favor of Avatar, you can check boxofficemojo if you would like for that info, just go to Avatar/TFA in the foreign section choose which country you would like and select local currency, it will then show it's worth agaist the dollar for said period (you must select a date as well). Avatar had a HUGE advantage with the currency exchange rate compared to TFA, if they were tied, the results would be MUCH closer.

In Brazil for example when Avatar released the Dolar was worth +/- 2 Reais. Avatar is the bigest box office in Brazil history with 60M dolars made +/-. Now with FA the dolar is worth +/- 4 reais, and FA still managed 25M dolars so far, that wouldve been 50M on Avatars day. So for FA to make more money than Avatar it needs to be seen twice as much, the fact it still managed 25M with this crap currency exchange rate is a phenomenal achievement.

Thats just 1 country but pretty much all of Europe and the rest of the Americas also have hugely disfavorable exchange rates in comparission to Avatar. The Euro was almost 1.43 dolas on Avatar release thas a gigantic difference from what it is now (its close to 1.09 dolars now). 

(0.146 for Avatar x 0.153 for FA) that barely even make a difference, FA would gross as much as Avatar with like 95.4% of its tickets sales.

 

Looking at these exchange rates closer like Im doing now, since your post brought it to my atention FA realy has to sell way more tickets than Avatar to make up for the hughely disfavorable exchange rates WW, maybe even around the 1.3-1.4x more tickets mark. If doing the completly nonsensical ludicrous thing of considering that a movie that sold like 100 million tickets 70 years ago would sell the same amount nowadays and just adjust to inflation to see how much money itdve made is a thing, adjusting exchnage rates to match the ones more favorable to a certain movie should be a thing to lol.

Some one over at forum.boxofficetheroy.com did a comparison with exchange rate and found that if you convert Avatar to todays currency, it's total gross would be 2.3 billion, not sure how accurate this is, but it seems to be about right, but thats a number TFA still might not reach, but it makes it a lot closer than it is.





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brute on 11 January 2016
Lawlight said:
I was wrong. Of the big market, only China is favourable to Avatar. So, the only way to have a somewhat fair comparison is to compare values in local currency. In Australia, TFA is at AU$79M after 4 week-ends. Avatar ended at AU$114M which means TFA will not pass Avatar. And that's despite the rise in ticket price.

It remains to be seen if TFA can sell more tickets than Avatar in the US.

 


We on't know if TFA's average ticket price is higher than Avatars since Avatar sold most of its tickets in 3D, I remember reading older reports in BoxofficeMojo that stated that over 70% of its ticket sold were in 3D.

 

Also TFA is about to pass Avatar even when adjusting for tickets prince inflation (domestically) but of course it won't come close to it WW.



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Wonktonodi on 11 January 2016
brute said:
Lawlight said:
I was wrong. Of the big market, only China is favourable to Avatar. So, the only way to have a somewhat fair comparison is to compare values in local currency. In Australia, TFA is at AU$79M after 4 week-ends. Avatar ended at AU$114M which means TFA will not pass Avatar. And that's despite the rise in ticket price.

It remains to be seen if TFA can sell more tickets than Avatar in the US.

 


We on't know if TFA's average ticket price is higher than Avatars since Avatar sold most of its tickets in 3D, I remember reading older reports in BoxofficeMojo that stated that over 70% of its ticket sold were in 3D.

 

Also TFA is about to pass Avatar even when adjusting for tickets prince inflation (domestically) but of course it won't come close to it WW.

 

Indeed, with the ticket estimates on box office mojo it should pass avatars total ticket sales within a week  in fact it's expected to become the first movie since titanic to sell over one hundred million tickets. 



Cobretti2 on 11 January 2016
Lawlight said:
I was wrong. Of the big market, only China is favourable to Avatar. So, the only way to have a somewhat fair comparison is to compare values in local currency. In Australia, TFA is at AU$79M after 4 week-ends. Avatar ended at AU$114M which means TFA will not pass Avatar. And that's despite the rise in ticket price.

It remains to be seen if TFA can sell more tickets than Avatar in the US.

 

Thats the thing people don't factor n either.

 

When i went to see avatar in 3D i paid $16AUD,  TFA is like $21AUD for 2D. Saying all that I went and saw it in gold class for $40AUD lol.



 

 

Lawlight on 12 January 2016
Cobretti2 said:
Lawlight said:
I was wrong. Of the big market, only China is favourable to Avatar. So, the only way to have a somewhat fair comparison is to compare values in local currency. In Australia, TFA is at AU$79M after 4 week-ends. Avatar ended at AU$114M which means TFA will not pass Avatar. And that's despite the rise in ticket price.

It remains to be seen if TFA can sell more tickets than Avatar in the US.

 

Thats the thing people don't factor n either.

 

When i went to see avatar in 3D i paid $16AUD,  TFA is like $21AUD for 2D. Saying all that I went and saw it in gold class for $40AUD lol.

Ah, a fellow Aussie. It's a shame that the regular poster on this website don't know about the goodness of gold class.





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Soundwave on 12 January 2016
Wonktonodi said:
brute said:

 


We on't know if TFA's average ticket price is higher than Avatars since Avatar sold most of its tickets in 3D, I remember reading older reports in BoxofficeMojo that stated that over 70% of its ticket sold were in 3D.

 

Also TFA is about to pass Avatar even when adjusting for tickets prince inflation (domestically) but of course it won't come close to it WW.

 

Indeed, with the ticket estimates on box office mojo it should pass avatars total ticket sales within a week  in fact it's expected to become the first movie since titanic to sell over one hundred million tickets. 

That's pretty freaking amazing. 

Sometimes it's easy to forget too that this is the SEVENTH Star Wars movie, lol after almost 40 years. The fact that this franchise can still dominate like it does says a lot. 

People are falling over themselves for a seventh Rocky movie (basically) making just $100 million dollars. 

It really does reaffirm my thoughts all along that all they had to do was make a "decent" Star Wars movie without the wood acting/dialogue/flat humor that the prequels were plagued by and return more to the style of the OT and they would make mountains of money. 

If Episode I in 1999 had been of this relative quality, it would have beaten Titanic as well I think. 



DakonBlackblade on 12 January 2016
Soundwave said:

That's pretty freaking amazing. 

Sometimes it's easy to forget too that this is the SEVENTH Star Wars movie, lol after almost 40 years. The fact that this franchise can still dominate like it does says a lot. 

People are falling over themselves for a seventh Rocky movie (basically) making just $100 million dollars. 

It really does reaffirm my thoughts all along that all they had to do was make a "decent" Star Wars movie without the wood acting/dialogue/flat humor that the prequels were plagued by and return more to the style of the OT and they would make mountains of money. 

If Episode I in 1999 had been of this relative quality, it would have beaten Titanic as well I think. 

I dont think Ep 1 could ever be this sucesfull, the fact tat Ep1 didnt please ppl was one fo the reasons everyone had this craving for a new star wars, if 1 had been sucessfull ppl would be very hyped but nearly as desperate to go see the movie as they were. And Rocky cant realy be compared to Star Wars both in mass appeal and budget.





Cobretti2 on 12 January 2016
Soundwave said:

That's pretty freaking amazing. 

Sometimes it's easy to forget too that this is the SEVENTH Star Wars movie, lol after almost 40 years. The fact that this franchise can still dominate like it does says a lot. 

People are falling over themselves for a seventh Rocky movie (basically) making just $100 million dollars. 

It really does reaffirm my thoughts all along that all they had to do was make a "decent" Star Wars movie without the wood acting/dialogue/flat humor that the prequels were plagued by and return more to the style of the OT and they would make mountains of money. 

If Episode I in 1999 had been of this relative quality, it would have beaten Titanic as well I think. 

Lol you seriously comparing Creed to Star Wars?

The movie wasn't even advertised internationally. It jsut showed up in cinemas one day in some countries and not many knew about it. COmpare that to Rocky VI and makes you wonder why they even bothered with a cinema release lol.



 

 

Lawlight on 12 January 2016

Looks like the movie will limp to pass Titanic as it's not doing all that great in China.



DakonBlackblade on 19 January 2016

If Monday estimates areright thats an interesting jump, 6 millions, kinda out of nowhere too. last week was still quite a bit better than JW, the movie still have a solid shot of making 1 billion on USA. China didnt help it much tough, it likely to do 150-170M there, I believe itll end around 1.2-1.3 billion worldwide.