You didn't say what is taking up all that memory. And honestly how does a game like MGS take up that kind of room? Unless they're not using any forms of compression. If huge games with tons of voice and textures like OBlivion fit on a dual layer dvd why wouldn't mgs? Same thing with plenty of 360 games Splinter Cell looks amazing with tons of different evnvironment, Gears of War is another similiar environment and it looks beautiful and fits on 360 discs. So what on earth are they doing in that game? It's either prerendered video, or uncompressed media. And they are coming out with more and more amazing compression techiniques with no loss of quality, for textures and audio, and video, there's no reason for games to get this big. 

yea i don't see how MGS can take up 50 gigs or actually be a very big game at all. MGS is traditionally a short, closed quarters game. Cutscenes take up loads of space if they are not created by the game's engine. I honestly don't believe them when they say it can't be done on 360 because of space.

Whatever happened to the pride developers used to take in creating the most efficient code?

Is it because of the space or because of the cell processor? EA said before they needed the cell processor for Black and Medal of Honor.

Kojima said PS3 only a few times now so unless he completely changes his mind it's not happening...

to flexible Maybe iI wasn't clear in my argument, but I was saying ( in my word ) that it's ridicule to say that a game absolutly need a 50 GB disc, almost all the games fit in a dual-layered DVD. It was in response to an argument based on 50 GB is a necessity. It is a necessity only when you believe in what Sony says.

Yep. I really feel like Kojima has put his company into a hole.

From the standpoint of a developer, such financial decisions may not be a big deal. You built this game in a specific way for a specific platform, with the specific technology available on that platform in mind. If you're a very careful designer, this is desireable.

From the standpoint of anyone in Konami involved in financial decisions, this could be a disaster. It's financially painful to make games that are extremely expensive to develop. It's also painful to make games on consoles that are less popular. But to make a game that's expensive to develop that is also on a less console? That really, really hurts, especially when you realize how stuck they are -- a simple port just isn't possible, as you've noted.

That can't make the CFO happy. If the average Namco game requires 500,000 units sold to break even, I'd assume that 800,00 or 1,000,000 copies of MGS4 would be a reasonable assumption for the break-even point. At this point, the odds of selling considerably more than 1,000,000 copies are slim.

A good point. I have no idea how such corporate canoodling works (would this really happen? I know children say stuff like: "I'll be your best friend if you make my movie for me!" but I really have no idea if this translates into adulthood, and furthermore into billion dollar business transactions. I don't know how the Sony/Columbia Pictures corporate structures work, or how reliant Konami is on Sony's good graces for the continuation of the movie production.) 

In other words -- unless someone here has detailed knowledge of just how much of a favor Sony is doing Konami by producing this movie, or even if it's a favor at all, then it's hard to gauge your theory. 

Hum...that's the exact same quote as the one linked above, so it's nothing new.  I just listened to the full podcast, though, and I get the impression is he saying that they haven't even begun working on a 360 version.  If you add that to the fact that Kojima himself has said many times that it's PS3 only, then I don't see any evidence that a 360 version will be released any time near a PS3, if ever.

The PS3 hardware is different than the 360's.  Saying that the MGS4 game is entrenched in the PS3 hardware is pretty telling.  Not only that, but the 360 can't do sixaxis and a lot of the podcast was talking about sixaxis.