JakDaSnack said:
Why would software kill a new console? That makes no sense.
You assumed that when I said "you guys" that I was assuming that you held differeing opinions, which wasn't true, I was merely mentioning an argument that neither one of you had brought up.
Actually Twilight princess sold 8.5 million on both GC and Wii, Skyward sword obviously sold less but the reception wasn't even remotely as positive as twilight princess. Do you remember the reaction of Twilight princess? It was insane and I would argue the reception of Breathe of the wild is much better. Mario kart 8 has sold 7 million on wii U, so it's not unheard of to see a game sell a lot on a lower install base.
As for GG, their best selling game sold 3 million and that was on a much larger install base than the ps4. It's certainly possible that Horizon will sell more but when it comes to exclusives on the ps4, the best selling game not made by Naughty Dog didn't even break 3 million(I'm referring to Infamous, unless I missed an exclusive).
Going back to the point about Zelda coming out a week after Horizon. Zelda completely overshadowed Horizon at E3, it wasn't even close. And it's very likely Zelda will do the same when it is released a week later.
One final point, Zelda is a series that has constantly changed over the years, and the initial reception directly effects the sales. Windwaker and skyward sword were all initally met with negativity and their sales showed it(between 3-4.5 mil sales each). While OOT and Twilight princess were initially met very positively(sales from 7-8.5 mil) and guess what the sales showed it. BOTW has had probably most positive reception of any Zelda ever, and you can bet that the sales will reflect that reception.
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Bolded; precisely, that's my point. People said that GTA IV would "kill the Wii", this was never happening since the consoles sold to entirely different demographics. And that ties into my point of Zelda vs Horizon: Switch and PS4 and Zelda and Horizon are unlikely to have the same demographics since the game concepts and consoles in and on themselves are so different.
Offering a new Ford Fiesta on the market won't steal away customers from Volvo V70, they're aimed at people with different needs and wishes.
Zelda won't affect the sales of Horizon and vice versa.
Mario Kart is a poor example, it's a vastly bigger franchise than Zelda, heck; it sold 35 million on Wii...
I'm not saying Horizon will sell more, I don't think it actually will, but I don't think that Zelda BotW will sell numbers that can't be beat by a game like Horizon under the right circumstances. So; Zelda will score higher, that's a given, it will probably sell more but it's not quite as certain. Satisfied?
PS: If you're making a point to refute a point that no one you quoted made, consider not making it at all, or at least clarify that it's meant as a genral observation, that was impossible to discern based on the post alone. Thanks for clarifying it now though.
PPS: Breakout games happen, especially open world games that are well made. Look at The Witcher 3, on smaller installed bases, it has sold a whole lot more than the previous one, also from a studio with little pedigree and no massive hits.