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BasilZero said:
Ruler said:

 

yes its 8gb, 8 core, and a good graphicscard

 


Uhh, ya I dont think you understand the basics of how a modern OS work l0l.

Those specs alone dont enable the PS4 the ability to emulate Windows 10 considering the fact that the PS3 and Xbox360 both had enough specs to be able to run Windows 10 by going with your response I mean.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications#sysreqs

I can understand the Xbox One having the capability of emulating Windows considering it has the Windows 8 kernel and Windows 10 files in its core system but the PS4 I cant see it happening but if you can show me a video of someone actually booting up Windows 7, 8 or 10 on a PS4 - that would be interesting.

Youre wrong its x86, ps3 and 360 arent. Thats the difference





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zero129 said:
DonFerrari said:
zero129 said:

I saw no one saying it's positive... only saw people saying it could increase HW sales, which is true... maybe your own double standards showing?

Doesnt the bolded contredict itself?.

Unless your saying that increasing hardware is not a positive??.

Id also like you to show me how im showing double standeds?, i have no problems with this never did and never will i love homebrew on consoles!. So for me this has incressed me wanting a PS4.

However i do have problems with the hypocrisy (Thanks Dr.Henry_Killinger ) of some users, who used Piracy as to why devs dont like to develope for the pc no matter how many millions of PC's are out there. But now its ok since it will boost PS4 hardware... What about the software??.



What he's saying is that the loss in software sales will easily offset the gain of increased console sales. It could also lead to loss of developer support.

 





I buy my games so I couldn't care less. For those who think this is bad for Sony, the PS1 and PS2 were both mod chipped to hell and back and it didn't hurt their business in any sizable way. This stuff is niche and really not worrying about.



TheGreatGamerGod said:
"Of course, this could unfortunately also open the gates for piracy. As responsible gamers, we at Gearnuke condemn and discourage such activities."

So we condemn it but also let you know about it in the first place.

In some parts of the world, it's not illegal to patch and mod your console to run homebrew on it, but the act of downloading games you don't own it's still illegal.





You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

SvennoJ said:
bluemd said:
In a world where every game needs several patches to work right, i dont know if piracy can really be a thing

Indeed, and this gives developers another excuse for that essential day 1 patch :/

On the flipside, maybe this gives Sony an incentive to ship out new consoles with the latest firmware (past hack) already installed (I have no clue if they do that already), saving new owners time when setting up the console.

PS3 and PS4 as far as I know install the latest FW available in the moment of assembly, I could be wrong. But if the console sit on shelf for a long time it could become outdated... And if moddng and pirating becomes big enough it may make them make more updates and ensure tighter schedule for shipments to enable more updated consoles.

COKTOE said:
Namiirei said:
COKTOE said:

Basically, yes. Only on the PS3 though.

You could do it on vita too , don't know if it work anymore.

No wonder some ppl jump from 15 platinum too 500.

Oh god. You just ruined Christmas. I was under the impression that it was still impossible to hack trophies on the Vita. Nope. You are correct. Not only that, but after 2 minutes, I can verify that you most definitely still can do it. Sucks that the PSN trophy ecosystem is more polluted than I thought it was. Policing trophies/achievements: This is something MS is waaaaay better at than Sony. Infinitley better in fact, because Sony does literally nothing about it. MS will ban your ass if you cheat, which is awesome.

Well I like my trophies and ranking, but I don't bother with cheaters and if I was competing with friends for the trophies I would look the likelyness of them cheating.

AsGryffynn said:
DonFerrari said:

With exchange rate of 4:1 the 280 is close enough to USA PSN when you pay the taxes... it would be easier for an American to buy their games here for the releases that are 150-200 that would cost 40-50 US.

Damn, I knew I was forgetting something. Damned exchange rates...

Well, this is a currency problem, so I guess that's one that can't be fixed...

Yep... one year ago the exchange rate was 2.65:1 and psn games were R$ 150-200 and now it's around 3.7:1 so the equilibrium is similar. But if you bought from USA you would probably save some money.

TheGreatGamerGod said:
"Of course, this could unfortunately also open the gates for piracy. As responsible gamers, we at Gearnuke condemn and discourage such activities."

So we condemn it but also let you know about it in the first place.

We gotta grab those clicks

zero129 said:
DonFerrari said:
zero129 said:
Its amazing the double standards of some users on here.
They enter PC threads and use Piracy as an argument against it but then when it comes to the PS4 and Sony its ok...

I saw no one saying it's positive... only saw people saying it could increase HW sales, which is true... maybe your own double standards showing?

Doesnt the bolded contredict itself?.

Unless your saying that increasing hardware is not a positive??.

Id also like you to show me how im showing double standeds?, i have no problems with this never did and never will i love homebrew on consoles!. So for me this has incressed me wanting a PS4.

However i do have problems with the hypocrisy (Thanks Dr.Henry_Killinger ) of some users, who used Piracy as to why devs dont like to develope for the pc no matter how many millions of PC's are out there. But now its ok since it will boost PS4 hardware... What about the software??

No it doesn't contradict... the only "positive" thing they said is that it could raise HW numbers, but it would impact SW and cheating. You only read what you wanted to read, that is where I said your bias could make you be and see double standards. Your double standard may not come from piracy and homebrew, but on how you want to judge other people existence or non-existence of dislike for something.

AnthonyW86 said:
zero129 said:

Doesnt the bolded contredict itself?.

Unless your saying that increasing hardware is not a positive??.

Id also like you to show me how im showing double standeds?, i have no problems with this never did and never will i love homebrew on consoles!. So for me this has incressed me wanting a PS4.

However i do have problems with the hypocrisy (Thanks Dr.Henry_Killinger ) of some users, who used Piracy as to why devs dont like to develope for the pc no matter how many millions of PC's are out there. But now its ok since it will boost PS4 hardware... What about the software??

What he's saying is that the loss in software sales will easily offset the gain of increased console sales. It could also lead to loss of developer support.

Not exaclty. What you said is true... but I did just wanted to say that HW rise was the only positive side people put, but there was a lot of negatives on this thread, but he decided to took ofense on not everyone being very upset by it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Darwinianevolution said:
TheGreatGamerGod said:
"Of course, this could unfortunately also open the gates for piracy. As responsible gamers, we at Gearnuke condemn and discourage such activities."

So we condemn it but also let you know about it in the first place.

In some parts of the world, it's not illegal to patch and mod your console to run homebrew on it, but the act of downloading games you don't own it's still illegal.

Is there any country you know of that prohibits you from modding your own HW as long as you don't break copyright material or divulgue the findings that lead others to breaking those materials? I don't remember any. But yes piracy is crime in most countries, just that in some no one care or take action against.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Nowadays consoles rely too much on being online so this is only of use for people who only play offline when it ever reaches piracy levels. Still I want to see consoles open as much as possible :)



walsufnir said:
Nowadays consoles rely too much on being online so this is only of use for people who only play offline when it ever reaches piracy levels. Still I want to see consoles open as much as possible :)

I don't ever fell the need for MP, but you are right, for the majority of the market Online seem like relevant enough for the piracy to be "selfcontained"



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

zero129 said:
DonFerrari said:
SvennoJ said:

Indeed, and this gives developers another excuse for that essential day 1 patch :/

On the flipside, maybe this gives Sony an incentive to ship out new consoles with the latest firmware (past hack) already installed (I have no clue if they do that already), saving new owners time when setting up the console.

PS3 and PS4 as far as I know install the latest FW available in the moment of assembly, I could be wrong. But if the console sit on shelf for a long time it could become outdated... And if moddng and pirating becomes big enough it may make them make more updates and ensure tighter schedule for shipments to enable more updated consoles.

COKTOE said:
Namiirei said:

You could do it on vita too , don't know if it work anymore.

No wonder some ppl jump from 15 platinum too 500.

Oh god. You just ruined Christmas. I was under the impression that it was still impossible to hack trophies on the Vita. Nope. You are correct. Not only that, but after 2 minutes, I can verify that you most definitely still can do it. Sucks that the PSN trophy ecosystem is more polluted than I thought it was. Policing trophies/achievements: This is something MS is waaaaay better at than Sony. Infinitley better in fact, because Sony does literally nothing about it. MS will ban your ass if you cheat, which is awesome.

Well I like my trophies and ranking, but I don't bother with cheaters and if I was competing with friends for the trophies I would look the likelyness of them cheating.

AsGryffynn said:
DonFerrari said:

With exchange rate of 4:1 the 280 is close enough to USA PSN when you pay the taxes... it would be easier for an American to buy their games here for the releases that are 150-200 that would cost 40-50 US.

Damn, I knew I was forgetting something. Damned exchange rates...

Well, this is a currency problem, so I guess that's one that can't be fixed...

Yep... one year ago the exchange rate was 2.65:1 and psn games were R$ 150-200 and now it's around 3.7:1 so the equilibrium is similar. But if you bought from USA you would probably save some money.

TheGreatGamerGod said:
"Of course, this could unfortunately also open the gates for piracy. As responsible gamers, we at Gearnuke condemn and discourage such activities."

So we condemn it but also let you know about it in the first place.

We gotta grab those clicks

zero129 said:
DonFerrari said:

I saw no one saying it's positive... only saw people saying it could increase HW sales, which is true... maybe your own double standards showing?

Doesnt the bolded contredict itself?.

Unless your saying that increasing hardware is not a positive??.

Id also like you to show me how im showing double standeds?, i have no problems with this never did and never will i love homebrew on consoles!. So for me this has incressed me wanting a PS4.

However i do have problems with the hypocrisy (Thanks Dr.Henry_Killinger ) of some users, who used Piracy as to why devs dont like to develope for the pc no matter how many millions of PC's are out there. But now its ok since it will boost PS4 hardware... What about the software??

No it doesn't contradict... the only "positive" thing they said is that it could raise HW numbers, but it would impact SW and cheating. You only read what you wanted to read, that is where I said your bias could make you be and see double standards. Your double standard may not come from piracy and homebrew, but on how you want to judge other people existence or non-existence of dislike for something.

Not exaclty. What you said is true... but I did just wanted to say that HW rise was the only positive side people put, but there was a lot of negatives on this thread, but he decided to took ofense on not everyone being very upset by it.

Well you did go from saying "No one was saying its a positive" to only "Some people seen it as a positive" .

So what is it a positive or not??.

Still haven't saw anyone saying it was positive (well wasulfunir just said he likes more open system). I saw people saying it could impact positively the HW sales. I find hard to understand why you can't see a difference between one positive aspect (with several negative or possibly negative) and a positive thing as a whole. Because I haven't seen anyone (besides perhaps wasulfunir, that isn't even PS4 buyer) saying it's totally positive.





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

zero129 said:
DonFerrari said:

Still haven't saw anyone saying it was positive (well wasulfunir just said he likes more open system). I saw people saying it could impact positively the HW sales. I find hard to understand why you can't see a difference between one positive aspect (with several negative or possibly negative) and a positive thing as a whole. Because I haven't seen anyone (besides perhaps wasulfunir, that isn't even PS4 buyer) saying it's totally positive.

Maybe cos the same users who all the time use this against PC didnt add no negitive to it. Yes i know the was users in here who seen it as a negitive but not the ones im on about but i wont mention no names and just leave it at this.

Like i said i have no problems with it but it would be nice if others thought the same way when its not their system.

I see... so it was some people that you know go to PC and complain of piracy and forgot to complain here... fair enough, altough on your initial post you didn't delimitate it. Anyway I think it may impact SW sales a lot in some countries (like Brazil) but improve HW as well. Sony probably think the balance is negative since they earn money on SW and they have making the consoles harder to pirate.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."