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curl-6 said:

Digital Foundry: "So, at 1080p, we're technically seeing 960x540 with 2x MSAA"

But before that they also said, "At its core, the PS4 version operates at 1080p while the Xbox One is 900p" ...



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Locknuts said:
They also say they like the compromise. I'm sure the pixel counters will be upset though. And those who still pretend that the consoles are powerful machines.

Given the price of the hardware they are fairly powerful. Especially if you bought a console this holiday for $300 with games.



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fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

Digital Foundry: "So, at 1080p, we're technically seeing 960x540 with 2x MSAA"

But before that they also said, "At its core, the PS4 version operates at 1080p while the Xbox One is 900p" ...

That's why in the thread title I said "technically", as in "we're technically seeing 960x540".



curl-6 said:
globalisateur said:
Wrong. It's actually 540p on PS4 and 450p on XB1.

That would make sense actually; Digital Foundry didn't specify, but presumably if the same process is used, Xbox One would be rendered at 800x450. Yikes...

You say "yikes" but the end result from temporal filtering is a game with sharp visuals and 60 fps.

Frankly, I'm fine with this technique if its going to help push graphics and performance.



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curl-6 said:

That's why in the thread title I said "technically", as in "we're technically seeing 960x540".

Their technically seeing a 1080p framebuffer reconstructed from a 540p image with 2x MSAA (I have no idea if their also doing 2x the shading rate either.)

Still misleading title IMO ...



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So basically the machine is making a picture with half the image blank and an elf with crayons is colouring in the rest? Is that what I'm reading, in essence?

I quite like the idea of having an elf in my console, though I do worry that it might not be getting paid or enough to eat. Where do I insert the sandwiches and are elfs vegetarian? They certainly look like they should be vegetarian. Damn I shouldn;t have thrown out the instruction manual. What if the elf is gluten free? If I feed it a sandwich then it might die and then my PS4 will stop working.

Or is the PS4 actually a PS2 with a PS4 emulator?



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Mr Puggsly said:

You say "yikes" but the end result from temporal filtering is a game with sharp visuals and 60 fps.

Frankly, I'm fine with this technique if its going to help push graphics and performance.

Same here, temporal reconstruction is really going to be a god send when it comes to increasing performance and graphical quality ... 

Temporally filtering shadow maps is a perfect candidate to reduce shadow aliasing ...



Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:
globalisateur said:
Wrong. It's actually 540p on PS4 and 450p on XB1.

That would make sense actually; Digital Foundry didn't specify, but presumably if the same process is used, Xbox One would be rendered at 800x450. Yikes...

You say "yikes" but the end result from temporal filtering is a game with sharp visuals and 60 fps.

Frankly, I'm fine with this technique if its going to help push graphics and performance.

I've deleted the "yikes", it was unnecessary.

Honestly, having not seen the end result for myself, I cannot say whether it works or not. Perhaps it does. I will say, I am generally a fan of when devs make the necessary tradeoffs to achieve 60fps.



So it looks a bit soft, nothing wrong with that. The game is 60fps on consoles and that's all that matters.



binary solo said:
So basically the machine is making a picture with half the image blank and an elf with crayons is colouring in the rest? Is that what I'm reading, in essence?

I quite like the idea of having an elf in my console, though I do worry that it might not be getting paid or enough to eat. Where do I insert the sandwiches and are elfs vegetarian? They certainly look like they should be vegetarian. Damn I shouldn;t have thrown out the instruction manual. What if the elf is gluten free? If I feed it a sandwich then it might die and then my PS4 will stop working.

Or is the PS4 actually a PS2 with a PS4 emulator?

Of course the elf is gluten-free, it's a component, not bread.

And you really mean to say you don't feed your elf??? The poor thing must be starving. Now, you see those ports on the side...