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Is that enough footage?

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Miyamotoo on 29 December 2015
curl-6 said:
freebs2 said:
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Like already wrote, they need more mature games, new projects and third party exlusives, they done great job with Bayonetta 2, Fatal Frame V, Xenoblade X, even with Devils Third despite game is garbage, but we need much more of that, we also need something new, Retro needs to make something similar to Uncharted or TLoU, we need new Metroid Prime, some exclusive Resident Evil would be great again...we need all that, but Nintendo don't need to change in any way already great games that are still on of the best games in industry and that are still very popular with great sales. Also they need third party support, but they realised that itself because they saw they cant support one console itself.

See now we're on the same wavelength. I completely agree with the bolded.

Oh please, no. This is the last thing they should do. Nintendo needs to offer a game experience that is different from their competitors. I welcome new IPs or reboots but the day they start to mimick other 1st party studios and look for what is trending at the moment -like any other 3rd party company-  is the day they really have no more reason to exist as a console maker.

They tried that with Wii U, it doesn't work. Mainstream gamers don't want "different". If they did, Wii U's sales wouldn't be so dismal.

Wii U is totally irrelevant, because it's bloody mess. Wii U had so many problems expect looked "diffrent". So you really can't say Wii U is proof of that gamers dont want "diffrent" things.

Wii on other hand did not had big problems like Wii U had, and Nintendo again will try to do something similar with NX like they done with Wii, again something new and unique that offer different experience from competitors. Funny thing is that Wii U is far more mainstream (it's basically normal console that only have controller with screen) than Wii was, and yet become worst selling Nintendo console while Wii become best selling Nintendo console.


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Miyamotoo on 29 December 2015
Paatar said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

I am a pessimist, but given the sorry state of the industry at the moment, even I'm often unrealistically optimistic. For instance, not even I dared to imagine this year's E3 would be this awful. Sadly, pessimism is reality when it comes to Nintendo these days.

You should have known me a couple of years ago; I defended Nintendo day in and day out, telling people "just wait til E3, they'll announce new stuff and blow us away" and the like.

These days, I am resigned to the harsh reality of today's industry, and the fact that my tastes are growing increasingly niche as the inexorable march of the Dudebro pushes everything that's not a realistic M-rated action game into obscurity. I may not like it, but that's the way things are.

No need for that, today's games are great, Nintendo games are great also like always were, you dont need to be such a pessimist only because Nintendo totally screwed WiiU and because is selling terrible, and because Nintendo is making some big changes that definitely affects WiiU/3DS.

Yes, this E3 was terrible and I was very dispaintment, but at E3 I realised that Nintendo is focused on NX for qite time now with launch set for 2016. and that they will continue support Wii U/3DS mainyle with previously announced games, smaller projects, spin offs and ports, and that was of reason of terible E3. But at E3 2014 for instance they had relly great show, and because of NX we can expect once again great show, just imagine full review of NX, full revile of Zelda, very likely new 3D Mario, Retros project, definitely some new NX games too..

I agree that Nintendo still makes great games, what I take issue with is their stubborn refusal to meet the needs of gamers who aren't already Nintendo fans. If they keep on like this, their audience will only continue to shrink, and they will go the way of Sega. I don't want that to happen.

Like already wrote, they need more mature games, new projects and third party exlusives, they done great job with Bayonetta 2, Fatal Frame V, Xenoblade X, even with Devils Third despite 

 

Xenoblade X is first party. Just so you know. 

Yes I know that, i refer to X like more mature game.





Miyamotoo on 29 December 2015
oniyide said:
Miyamotoo said:

That was LE bundle, again around half Wii onwer didnt had Wii Motion Plus or Wii Remote. No, some people would buy it game if they didn't need to give extra cash in order to play game.

Require Motion Plus or Remote Plus for Zelda U definitely hurt sales of game, is arguably how much, but I think sales would be around 30% better without requre of Motion Plus or Remote Plus.

thats still 50mil people who could have gotten the game. I think it would have been around 15%

And 50m more people who needed to pay extra money in order to play game, I think it would be around 30%.





curl-6 on 29 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

See now we're on the same wavelength. I completely agree with the bolded.

Yes, do something completely different and new IP that is more mature, but I dont think that need to be clone of those games, something similar yes but definitely with Nintendo touch that will make huge difference. :)  Do that, but relly don't need to change in any way (of course except changes they are doing normally with every new game of some IP) already great IPs.

It wouldn't be "changing" Zelda to use a style it has used successfully before. The franchise has already been shown to work well with a darker approach.



Miyamotoo on 29 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

See now we're on the same wavelength. I completely agree with the bolded.

Yes, do something completely different and new IP that is more mature, but I dont think that need to be clone of those games, something similar yes but definitely with Nintendo touch that will make huge difference. :)  Do that, but relly don't need to change in any way (of course except changes they are doing normally with every new game of some IP) already great IPs.

It wouldn't be "changing" Zelda to use a style it has used successfully before. The franchise has already been shown to work well with a darker approach.

Again we starting all over again...I already wrote why I think that wouldnt be good choice and you wrote why you think that would good choice, no need to repeat all over again.

Personally I am very happy with art style they choose for Zelda U, it fits perfect with beautiful and colorful huge Zelda U world.





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curl-6 on 29 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

It wouldn't be "changing" Zelda to use a style it has used successfully before. The franchise has already been shown to work well with a darker approach.

Again we starting all over again...I already wrote why I think that wouldnt be good choice and you wrote why you think that would good choice, no need to repeat all over again.

Personally I am very happy with art style they choose for Zelda U, it fits perfect with beautiful and colorful huge Zelda U world.

What it basically comes down to is that you cannot put aside your personal bias.

You like toon Zelda, so you refuse to accept that your opinion does not reflect the market.



Miyamotoo on 29 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

It wouldn't be "changing" Zelda to use a style it has used successfully before. The franchise has already been shown to work well with a darker approach.

Again we starting all over again...I already wrote why I think that wouldnt be good choice and you wrote why you think that would good choice, no need to repeat all over again.

Personally I am very happy with art style they choose for Zelda U, it fits perfect with beautiful and colorful huge Zelda U world.

What it basically comes down to is that you cannot put aside your personal bias.

You like toon Zelda, so you refuse to accept that your opinion does not reflect the market.

No it not basically comes down what I want, I already wrote you why I think Zelda U art style si great style and why darker approach wouldn't be good choice. I will not repeat any more things that I already wrote, go to earlier posts and read again if you cant remember.

Still you didn't answer my question, you having some problem with memory? Why you ignoring my question?





curl-6 on 29 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

What it basically comes down to is that you cannot put aside your personal bias.

You like toon Zelda, so you refuse to accept that your opinion does not reflect the market.

No it not basically comes down what I want, I already wrote you why I think Zelda U art style si great style and why darker approach wouldn't be good choice. I will not repeat any more things that I already wrote, go to earlier posts and read again if you cant remember.

Still you didn't answer my question, you having some problem with memory? Why you ignoring my question?

Your reasoning all just boils down to "because I like it, therefore its the best and everyone else is wrong".

Nobody is saying you're not allowed to like it, but the market clearly does not share your opinion, this is obvious.



oniyide on 29 December 2015
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

That's not the audience I'm talking about. I'm talking about the blue ocean crowd that made the Wii such a massive success. They've moved on to mobile and the like, not to PS4.

Have they ? Is there any proof for this ? PS4 definitely got some of the crowds from the WII though ... 

Also I could've just made the claim they went to PC to play flash games ...

 

yeah they have, just look at the type of games that actually sold on the Wii vs, PS4 and you'll see that they are wildly different. Hint: Zumba aint doing gangbusters on PS4



Miyamotoo on 29 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

What it basically comes down to is that you cannot put aside your personal bias.

You like toon Zelda, so you refuse to accept that your opinion does not reflect the market.

No it not basically comes down what I want, I already wrote you why I think Zelda U art style si great style and why darker approach wouldn't be good choice. I will not repeat any more things that I already wrote, go to earlier posts and read again if you cant remember.

Still you didn't answer my question, you having some problem with memory? Why you ignoring my question?

Your reasoning all just boils down to "because I like it, therefore its the best and everyone else is wrong".

Nobody is saying you're not allowed to like it, but the market clearly does not share your opinion, this is obvious.

Not true at all, I gave objective reasons, not I like reasons, also already wroten, you again already forget and you again didn't ready earlier posts.

Still you didn't answer my question, you having some problem with memory? Why you ignoring my question?