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bananaking21 on 30 November 2015
Pavolink said:
bananaking21 said:
not gonna happen.


Wii U first year shipments - 3.91M

Nintendo 3DS first year shipments - 15.04M

Total devices shipped in its first year - 18.95M

 

How can't this happen?


PS4 shipped 4.5 million units in 2013, the year it released.

The WiiU will be announced in 2016. lets say, best case scenario, (and most likely). that it gets announced early 2016 with a holiday release date.

it releases in early november. you are expecting nintendo to ship 10-12 million units in two months?



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DonFerrari on 30 November 2015
Wyrdness said:
DonFerrari said:

That would diminish the total sales of people that bought WiiU and 3DS, thats is why I think 20M isn't reachable.


I don't really get what you're trying to say here, NX is speculated to replace both those devices and the portable side of things alone will easily cross 20m unless you mean 20m in one year.

Yes, one year... because the rumour says Nintendo want to ship 20M in the first year.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 30 November 2015
Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

Why people need to buy 2 versions, handheld and home console are quite different, how many 3DS owners have Wii U!? Definitely not many, theoreticly in best case one of five.

You realise that 3DS/Wii U combined had shipment around 15-20m in their first year!? So it not unusual that Nintendo is targeting 20m of NX devices in first year.


That is the point, if they don't need to buy both them you can't sum both their numbers.

You said best case is one of five (that would mean all 3DS owners have a WiiU, it isn't impossible, but also not likely)... But on a 50M 3DS and 10M WiiU userbase how much is their combined userbase? Something along 50 and 60M... ignoring multiple 3DS owners, I would say their combined is like 52-55M.

So if their combined was 15-20M I have very strong reasons to not believe they can make 20M on NX

Handheld and home console are totally different markets, so NX home console and handheld will aim two console markets at same time. Also NX home and handheld consoles will be heavy integrated so bigger number of people will have both devices than before.

3DS and Wii U combined had around 18m in first year, but have on mind that Wii U is worst seling Nintedendo console and Nintendo clearly planning that NX home console will be more successful, so 20m for totally new integrated platform isn't unrealistic if 3DS and WiiU had around 18m.

They are so different that they have nil overlap?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 30 November 2015
zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

That would diminish the total sales of people that bought WiiU and 3DS, thats is why I think 20M isn't reachable.

Ur assuming that it won't attract anybody other than current 3DS/Wii U owners.


Nope, I'm assuming that for them to reach 20M in one year they would have to sell the combined WiiU and 3DS first year (pretend there is no overlap, which is ridiculous) plus 12% increase... you can see even the supposed rumour source believe it'll be half of supposed nintendo predictions... and they showed they can high ball their predictions a lot with 3DS and WiiU this gen.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Pavolink on 30 November 2015
bananaking21 said:
Pavolink said:


Wii U first year shipments - 3.91M

Nintendo 3DS first year shipments - 15.04M

Total devices shipped in its first year - 18.95M

 

How can't this happen?


PS4 shipped 4.5 million units in 2013, the year it released.

The WiiU will be announced in 2016. lets say, best case scenario, (and most likely). that it gets announced early 2016 with a holiday release date.

it releases in early november. you are expecting nintendo to ship 10-12 million units in two months?

First full year.

This rumor is the second part of this:

"Orders for the NX will be finalized by March 2016, and the sources indicate that Nintendo intends to ship 20 million units during the first year. Now that’s confidence."

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/07/02/nintendo-nx-in-pilot-production-headed-for-july-2016-release-according-to-rumor/

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150702PD204.html



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bunchanumbers on 30 November 2015

am I the only one who is excited by NX next year? I love my Wii U (gamepad issues aside) but next year will be awesome if NX launches. I mean Nintendo consolidating their game divisions alone is fantastic news for what NX is capable of, even if it has issues like Wii U. NX just might be the crowning achievement of Nintendo, and I think that it can't come fast enough.



Darwinianevolution on 30 November 2015
bunchanumbers said:
am I the only one who is excited by NX next year? I love my Wii U (gamepad issues aside) but next year will be awesome if NX launches. I mean Nintendo consolidating their game divisions alone is fantastic news for what NX is capable of, even if it has issues like Wii U. NX just might be the crowning achievement of Nintendo, and I think that it can't come fast enough.

I am excited for the NX too. The thing is that we know almost anything about the system, and what we do know comes from rumours or very vague leaks. I have no idea what I'm getting excited about.



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sc94597 on 30 November 2015
Wyrdness said:
DonFerrari said:


And you think how many will buy 2 versions or how many have been doing it in the past. Because you would almost have to sum their hh and console this gen to achieve 12M on first year having probably only second half of 2016 (it won't release on january if they haven't even release propper info on it. It makes more sense to release info on e3 and release betwen june and october


Who says people need to buy two versions? You only need one as both devices are rumoured to share a library, it's pretty much certain if it's two devices they'll use the unified platform.

As someone mentioned 3DS and Wii U shipments combined equal that easy.

Even if they are a unified platform they can still have exclusive games (think New 3DS vs. 3DS, but more pronounced.)



superchunk on 30 November 2015

Yeah... for a company to be optimistic is news but meh... biggest point is that this is confirmation that it will launch in 2016.



Miyamotoo on 01 December 2015
DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

Why people need to buy 2 versions, handheld and home console are quite different, how many 3DS owners have Wii U!? Definitely not many, theoreticly in best case one of five.

You realise that 3DS/Wii U combined had shipment around 15-20m in their first year!? So it not unusual that Nintendo is targeting 20m of NX devices in first year.


That is the point, if they don't need to buy both them you can't sum both their numbers.

You said best case is one of five (that would mean all 3DS owners have a WiiU, it isn't impossible, but also not likely)... But on a 50M 3DS and 10M WiiU userbase how much is their combined userbase? Something along 50 and 60M... ignoring multiple 3DS owners, I would say their combined is like 52-55M.

So if their combined was 15-20M I have very strong reasons to not believe they can make 20M on NX

Handheld and home console are totally different markets, so NX home console and handheld will aim two console markets at same time. Also NX home and handheld consoles will be heavy integrated so bigger number of people will have both devices than before.

3DS and Wii U combined had around 18m in first year, but have on mind that Wii U is worst seling Nintedendo console and Nintendo clearly planning that NX home console will be more successful, so 20m for totally new integrated platform isn't unrealistic if 3DS and WiiU had around 18m.

They are so different that they have nil overlap?

NX home and handheld will be heavy integrated, but again biggest difference between handheld and home console will still exist, one is mobile console with small screen another is home console for playing on big screen. So whole point that Nintendo with those 20m will aim handheld and home console market, I already said that Wii U and 3DS combine had around 18m in first year, so 20m for NX is realistic.