Glad to see all 3 consoles selling well.
daredevil.shark said:
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I don't think it's so much about leaving it to the professionals. I wouldn't want Michael Panther estimating sales of anything.
The issue here is the vast majority of people come here for the charts and in no disillusion of knowing the numbers are estimates, that there will be times they over or undertake.
The site admin and his team have repeated themselves as far as I can remember being on this site saying they try to follow trends of now and previous gens and extrapolate based on the info they have. They make adjustments where necessary and they try make them in the right places to improve their formula.
We all know about the complaints when ioi stopped posting numbers and where people were willing to accept any sorts of numbers.
It is silly to just make comments attacking the admin and his team with the same arguments knowing full well you will get the same answers. If things like this really bug people and they rather have official numbers from trusted sources only, then by all means they can avoid this site. No one is forcing these numbers onto anyone, no one is claiming they are 100% accurate, they are exactly what they say they are - estimations.
SWORDF1SH said:
It should of been one of ioi's more easier predictions though. If we could see it was 1M undertracked from shipped data, why weren't there any adjustments after the financial report? |
I think that's due to not all the consoles going through inventory at the same speed. Some people thought Sony were flooding the channel with extra units in preparation for Black Friday and holidays. Some people thought it was about right as shops may increase orders in preparation for holidays.
At least now we know the sold through numbers, the sales team can start working on where to make adjustments. The biggest problem obviously it's where to make them as we know they can't simply add numbers, they have to figure out where it sold more to ensure the formula they use is also adjusted.
We know what it sold in America and the UK so we know the adjustments won't be coming from there.
Puppyroach said:
They have a margin of error of less than 5%, which is pretty damn good tracking, so you are way off. the numbers on this site are very trustworthy indeed. |
While I don't care the numbers are off here and I'm glad we get them let's be clear about the facts. They're never just 5% off especially for the ps4.
If they never adjusted to match official sales and shipments that are regularly announced they'd be way off. They are only ever close because we've got a few years or correct adjusted data plus a few months of their own fairly wrong data.
I love this site for its estimations and adjustments but let's not pretend it's anywhere near 5%
twintail said: I'm surprised they didn't just wait until PSX. But good for Sony. |
As someone mentionned it before, announcing this right before Black Friday has a much bigger impact.
Fei-Hung said:
At least now we know the sold through numbers, the sales team can start working on where to make adjustments. The biggest problem obviously it's where to make them as we know they can't simply add numbers, they have to figure out where it sold more to ensure the formula they use is also adjusted.
We know what it sold in America and the UK so we know the adjustments won't be coming from there. |
That's a fair point
Just like I expected. We told ya..
When the EA guy said his estimate for combined sales of both systems, I predicted around 34.5M ps4s and 17M X1s (real numbers, not VGC tracking). Still on track.
Smart announcing it before black friday. Just remind all the parents out there which console is dominating. Because the last thing they want is to buy them another only for the child to be sad he can't play online with his friends because they're all on ps4.
Personally I find this number incredible because Sony hasn't even used it's big guns yet. next year is going to be even bigger for it.
And this is before BF, not bad.
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