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LordTheNightKnight said:
CrazzyMan said:

1) who cares:

omgwtfbbq said: When you are comparing the number of sold consoles, then only the number of sold consoles matter.

2) well, today we speak about first 6 month of each console sales, + look 1).

 


 I meant that the PS3 isn't selling out, while the 360 sold out for several months. So the 360 had fewer systems to sell in the first place. Therefore the first few months is not a good comparison.


That is because, x360 started worldwide almost at same time, and ps3 only after 4 month.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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a.l.e.x59 said:
Chubear said:
a.l.e.x59 said:
I have been reviewing some of my previous threads, and it appeared that I was bashing the Playstation 3 in favor for the Nintendo Wii, and Microsoft Xbox 360. That is unfair to Sony Playstation 3, because it is a really good system, despite a few flaws.

I've bashed the Sony Playstation 3 enough. It is about time I say some good things about it.

I've been reading more about the system, and the truth is, it is a very under rated system.

The Playstation 3 is only $200 more expensive than the Xbox 360. However, because Sony is losing more money, per console, than Xbox 360 is on their consoles, you are getting a better deal when you purchase the Playstation 3... *yada, yada, yada*

Oh, so what you're trying to say is, you better go on record for saying good things about the PS3 seeing as it's looking like, after the Sony gamers day event, that Sony's PS3 is about to kick some major ass. Ah, I see, well..OK. You really haven't said anything that hasn't been drummed repeatedly out since 2005 by Sony's fanbase to the likes of people like you that dogged the PS3 like crazy... and you're only reading up on it now? lol, wow.


Actually, it all depends on how you view the system. You can view it in a good way, for what it is, and you can view it in a bad way, when compared to its competitors. If its competitors never existed, everyone would be thinking that the Playstation 3 is the best thing in the world.

The Playstation 3 wont kick some major ass. I wont even kick ass in general. I personally think it is going to die out, because people now days are too cheap to spend the money to buy it, and don't know what it's fully capable of doing.

I got most of my facts before. I just decided to make one thread that praised the Playstation 3, since there are already so many other threads (including some of mine) that were bashing it.


Thats the key right there. People dont know what they are getting for that money. And thats where M$ gets its suckers from. People that bought the HDD less 360, people who bought one in general. The PS3 has a ton more features both hardware and functionality. The 360 selld all of its "extras" for an insane amount of money and forces you to buy there own stuff. The PS3 has all of those features built in for a fraction of what you would pay getting it with a 360. I think if everyone knew it had a blu-ray drive, up-converted PS1,PS2 and DVDs, was a location free player, allows music and video streaming from your PC, allowed you to increase the size of the HDD to whatever size you want using whatever HDD you wan, could use Blu-tooth peripherals and use the PSP as a remote, hell play PS1 games on your PSP from anywhere in the world. They would realize that the PS3 was a GREAT DEAL. The 360 gets you in cheap, but steals your wallet once you open it.



darendt said:
a.l.e.x59 said:
Chubear said:
a.l.e.x59 said:
I have been reviewing some of my previous threads, and it appeared that I was bashing the Playstation 3 in favor for the Nintendo Wii, and Microsoft Xbox 360. That is unfair to Sony Playstation 3, because it is a really good system, despite a few flaws.

I've bashed the Sony Playstation 3 enough. It is about time I say some good things about it.

I've been reading more about the system, and the truth is, it is a very under rated system.

The Playstation 3 is only $200 more expensive than the Xbox 360. However, because Sony is losing more money, per console, than Xbox 360 is on their consoles, you are getting a better deal when you purchase the Playstation 3... *yada, yada, yada*

Oh, so what you're trying to say is, you better go on record for saying good things about the PS3 seeing as it's looking like, after the Sony gamers day event, that Sony's PS3 is about to kick some major ass. Ah, I see, well..OK. You really haven't said anything that hasn't been drummed repeatedly out since 2005 by Sony's fanbase to the likes of people like you that dogged the PS3 like crazy... and you're only reading up on it now? lol, wow.


Actually, it all depends on how you view the system. You can view it in a good way, for what it is, and you can view it in a bad way, when compared to its competitors. If its competitors never existed, everyone would be thinking that the Playstation 3 is the best thing in the world.

The Playstation 3 wont kick some major ass. I wont even kick ass in general. I personally think it is going to die out, because people now days are too cheap to spend the money to buy it, and don't know what it's fully capable of doing.

I got most of my facts before. I just decided to make one thread that praised the Playstation 3, since there are already so many other threads (including some of mine) that were bashing it.


Thats the key right there. People dont know what they are getting for that money. And thats where M$ gets its suckers from. People that bought the HDD less 360, people who bought one in general. The PS3 has a ton more features both hardware and functionality. The 360 selld all of its "extras" for an insane amount of money and forces you to buy there own stuff. The PS3 has all of those features built in for a fraction of what you would pay getting it with a 360. I think if everyone knew it had a blu-ray drive, up-converted PS1,PS2 and DVDs, was a location free player, allows music and video streaming from your PC, allowed you to increase the size of the HDD to whatever size you want using whatever HDD you wan, could use Blu-tooth peripherals and use the PSP as a remote, hell play PS1 games on your PSP from anywhere in the world. They would realize that the PS3 was a GREAT DEAL. The 360 gets you in cheap, but steals your wallet once you open it.


 You are assuming that everyone would want all those features with the 360, which isn't true. The thing is that people still see gaming systems as little more than, well, gaming systems. Thus having more games is what attracts people. $200 more, with fewer stellar games (upcoming or already here), just doesn't seem that attractive to people, fair or not.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

CrazzyMan said:
NJ5 said:
CrazzyMan said:
omgwtfbbq said:
CrazzyMan said:
omgwtfbbq said:
 
 

 

 


 




Now, just try to see how these consoles refer to price. 200-250$ for wii, 400$ for x360 and 600$ for PS3. 600$ system is doing same as 400$ system. That means 400$ system is doing like a crap. Why you are so blind, that don`t see, that 600$ system is doing better then 400$? And that 400$ system should sell much better, then 600$, but it`s not selling better.

And Wii for 200-250$ is selling, like any console would sell for that price.

Read some stuff - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demand


No, the PS3 is not doing the same as the 360. It's doing worse, no matter how much you try to skew the numbers. 2007 aggregate numbers mean nothing as they include the European launch. Every other period in 2007 shows the 360 beating the PS3.

Regarding your comment that any console would sell as well as the Wii for that price, I invite you to look at the history of previous consoles. 



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Are you Blind ???
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&align=1

Just make ps3 price 299$ and it will be selling better then Wii.

You want an experiment? Buy 10 Wii and 10 PS3. Go to e-bay, and make price for every Wii 249$ and for every PS3 299$. Both will be sold out in 1 hour.

In description write, that you are gamer, and want to share a joy with other gamers, that`s why ps3 has such price, and wii is easy available. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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CrazzyMan said:

Are you Blind ???
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&align=1

Just make ps3 price 299$ and it will be selling better then Wii.

You want an experiment? Buy 10 Wii and 10 PS3. Go to e-bay, and make price for every Wii 249$ and for every PS3 299$. Both will be sold out in 1 hour.

In description write, that you are gamer, and want to share a joy with other gamers, that`s why ps3 has such price, and wii is easy available. =)


 Wii is not easily available. And if you actually included the Wii in your link, which you clearly did not (just PS2, PS3, and 360), you would see that the Wii is actually selling about as well as the PS2, which was $299 (especially if you split by regions, since the PS2 launched in Japan 9 months before the US).

 Yet the dumb part of your comment is that we don't deny that the PS3 would be selling better at a lower price. It's that it is NOT selling at a lower price. It's that Sony declared that the price was irrelevant, especially since the PS2's low priced DVD player was such a great selling point.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

10 Wii are easy available on e-bay - it`s an explonation in description, why guy is selling them.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=Wii&reg3=Japan&align=1
Price TaG.

So what you complain about? PS3 for it`s price is doing phenomenal GOOD. Just try to sell any other console for 600$, i wonder, how much you will sell.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
10 Wii are easy available on e-bay - it`s an explonation in description, why guy is selling them.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=Wii&reg3=Japan&align=1
Price TaG.

So what you complain about? PS3 for it`s price is doing phenomenal GOOD. Just try to sell any other console for 600$, i wonder, how much you will sell.

 Just over 50% of shipments (5.5 million shipped announced at the time 3 million were sold) is not phenominal. The hard numbers are pretty good, but don't pretend following two of the bestselling consoles ever has nothing to do with that.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

60% sold of shipments of a console which cost 600$ - is not great???
Can you name me any console, which had price over 500$ and was selling better?
so, what is your problem?



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
60% sold of shipments of a console which cost 600$ - is not great???
Can you name me any console, which had price over 500$ and was selling better?
so, what is your problem?

 What did I type about the Playstations before? So you are pretending that has nothing to do with this.

 The fact is that the PS3 has a great legacy, but is screwing up because of the price. Argue that it would sell better with a lower price all you want. The point is the reality. It doesn't cost less, and it isn't selling better.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs