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Is Nintendo finished with 3DS and Wii U after 2016?

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Mummelmann said:
Miyamotoo said:

Point of OP is that Nintendo is finished with Wii U and that are focused on NX now. I dont see how could you realise that in mid 2013. when we had huge announcements in 2013. and basically no one heavy hitter was not launched yet!?


Developing hardware and software takes time, with the Wii U off to such a terrible start, it was no massive leap in logic to think that Nintendo would already start shifting resources and attention towards their next console and a chance for a better beginning.
I'm not saying that they decided in mid-2013 to do this, but this was around the time it became clear to me that they would have to jump out the gate next gen and it seemed logical that they would shift their attention elsewhere instead of hammering cold iron, especially with them losing money on the Wii U still.
Were they "finished with the 8th gen" in mid-2013? Not really, but as with the Sega Dreamcast; we've seen that things can move quickly when consoles sell slowly, and the Dreamcast actually sold faster, it was not such a far-fetched conclusion for me to make at the time as one might think.

I agree, but again, point of OP is that Nintendo is finished with Wii U and that are focused on NX now, and you wrote "I think I realized this sometime in mid-2013", nobody knew back then when Nintendo will start focus on NX or how long Wii U will last.

Nintendo probably start shifting projects, resources and attention to NX in late 2014. or erly 2015, and that was obvious when we didn't had any big Wii U announcement at E3.



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I think we can see a game or 2 for early 2017 because that would be pre NX launch..

but yes, I basically agree, they are definitely slowing down and shifting gears



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Mummelmann said:
jonathanalis said:
even so, wii U is selling better this year than 2014(i didnt expected that), even without games with the importance of mario kart and smash. also, they are working more in previously annouced games and third party developers to keep the library going until the NX arrival. I and lots of wii U owners are ok with splatoon, mario maker, xenoblade, zelda, pokken and some other titles until the end of wii U life.

but i see your point and agree mostly.

But will NX be 9th gen? they are of course diminishing the 3DS and wii U support to focus in NX, but NX can be also 8th gen, so perhaps they are not done with 8th gen.


Actually, counting from jan 1st and to around nov 15th; 2015 is at around 1.85 million versus roughly 2.1 million in 2014, so that's not true. It was flat for the week ending on the 14th of nov. Assuming the numbers are correct, that is, it may be slightly overtracked. Regardless, it's at least 10% down yoy thus far and there's not much reason to think it will make up any lost ground during the holidays.


He may refers in shipments where it's yoy up...

Say that with some reservation... Don't forget splatoon's sales wonder!

You just remembered me  a person with who I had a dispute about wii u  sales in Japan back in february!

He was saying with certainty that wii u was near at the 80% of its lt sales (Which was implying 2.8m final sales and wii u is  at 2.7m as of second week of november '15, two years and eleven months after it's launch in Japan) and I suggested him to be cautious because there would be things that could boost wii u or  make it to resurge! His answer was absolute: in no way wii u sales will be raised! Guess what! Splatoon did it , xenoblade chronicles had boosted previously wii u and super mario maker gave a further push/kept wii u afloat along with splatoon retrospective boost.

Wii u has really tempting bundles for the holidays...

Wii u has a super smash bros+splatoon deluxe set bundle for a suggested price of 279$ for holidays, Mario kart 8+splatoon premium pack bundle for a suggested price of 280 euros in Europe and Splatoon bundle in Japan which was released recently and increased wii u sales!



DolPhanTendo said:
Wow what short memory Iwata died six months ago so I think they had their thoughts elsewhere. I know most people in here don't care but when a company loses their leader suddenly things are out on hold. It's like just because you came on here and left your comment about him you think you show you cared. Nope because two months later people are complaining the lack of directs, and what not being released. He dies 6 months ago not 3 years, not 2. not even a year.
I'm sorry a death got in the way of your gaming experience for 4 months, show some morals and respect thanks


Time stops for no man. Nintendo themselves showed as much by how they only spent 10 seconds addressing his death in the direct. You can't expect everyone to cry for months and months whenever someone dies. I'm sure instead of wasting time with that Iwata would rather Nintendo keep on running like they always have.



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tak13 said:
Mummelmann said:


Actually, counting from jan 1st and to around nov 15th; 2015 is at around 1.85 million versus roughly 2.1 million in 2014, so that's not true. It was flat for the week ending on the 14th of nov. Assuming the numbers are correct, that is, it may be slightly overtracked. Regardless, it's at least 10% down yoy thus far and there's not much reason to think it will make up any lost ground during the holidays.


He may refers in shipments where it's yoy up...

Say that with some reservation... Don't forget splatoon's sales wonder!

You just remembered me  a person with who I had a dispute about wii u  sales in Japan back in february!

He was saying with certainty that wii u was near at the 80% of its lt sales (Which was implying 2.8m final sales and wii u is  at 2.7m as of second week of november '15, two years and eleven months after it's launch in Japan) and I suggested him to be cautious because there would be things that could boost wii u or  make it to resurge! His answer was absolute: in no way wii u sales will be raised! Guess what! Splatoon did it , xenoblade chronicles had boosted previously wii u and super mario maker gave a further push/kept wii u afloat along with splatoon retrospective boost.

Wii u has really tempting bundles for the holidays...

Wii u has a super smash bros+splatoon deluxe set bundle for a suggested price of 279$ for holidays, Mario kart 8+splatoon premium pack bundle for a suggested price of 280 euros in Europe and Splatoon bundle in Japan which was released recently and increased wii u sales!

Not saying it's impossible; just unlikely. A price cut might help but won't make for more than a short term boost. Now would be the perfect time for one though and it's kind of overdue. Then again, they need to make money as well so it could be they'll try to get some return on their investment hardware-wise, I don't know how big their profit margins on each unit is, but I can't imagine that it's huge.
Yes, software makes up most of the profit, but it's hard to tell whether a price cut could be worth it in the end if software sales don't pick up enough to offset the losses (or reduced profits).

Sure; it could have a better holiday than last year, but without a price cut and recent system selling software, it will be hard when it's already down 10-15% yoy.



Einsam_Delphin said:
DolPhanTendo said:
Wow what short memory Iwata died six months ago so I think they had their thoughts elsewhere. I know most people in here don't care but when a company loses their leader suddenly things are out on hold. It's like just because you came on here and left your comment about him you think you show you cared. Nope because two months later people are complaining the lack of directs, and what not being released. He dies 6 months ago not 3 years, not 2. not even a year.
I'm sorry a death got in the way of your gaming experience for 4 months, show some morals and respect thanks


Time stops for no man. Nintendo themselves showed as much by how they only spent 10 seconds addressing his death in the direct. You can't expect everyone to cry for months and months whenever someone dies. I'm sure instead of wasting time with that Iwata would rather Nintendo keep on running like they always have.


Not to mention the fact that they were headed for the storm long before Iwata died. In fact; I wager they were in imminent trouble before he even got diagnosed. Besides; any one CEO's illness or even death shouldn't prevent anyone from discussing the future and present state of the company, on the contrary, it seems more pertinent and relevant now than ever.

I didn't see anyone holding back when Steve Jobs died, and I sure didn't see DolPhanTendo stepping in to tell anyone to do so.



Gamemaster87 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Facts pointing for 2016. release, not only me.

If its same unified platform with two different devices there is no need for completely different marketing, basically they can promote both in same time. Why would people needed to buy them both, Nintendo will be happy if people choose one at launch. Launch titles will be same for both devices, that's whole point of unified platform.

And yes Nintendo has capacity for something like that, but they dont have any more capacity for launching two completely different consoles and platforms, like they were doing till now.

I don't see any "facts" pointing to anything.

And why on earth should Nintendo be happy if people buy one device? That's like if you want to only sell the half of your products. If that is happening it flop even harder than the Wii U and the 3DS.

And as I said before: no, they won't have the same games. That would be very dumb since wouldn't care for the other system.

Nintendo will release two different systems, one handheld and one home console, with at least one year in between. Face it.

You will remember my words next year and may think "I should have trusted that guy".

-DigiTimes reported that Nintendo is gearing for next year launch with 20m devaices.

-World Street Journal reported that Nintendo start distributing a software development kit for its new NX video game platform and they that will be released next year. "Nintendo would likely include both a console and at least one mobile unit that could either be used in conjunction with the console or taken on the road for separate use".

-For Wii U in whole 2015. Nintendo didn't had not one new announcement for bigger game that isn't port, remaster or spin off. Same could say for 3DS. Why!? I will tell you why, because Nintendo is preparing all bigger projects for next year NX launch. Till NX dont arrive next year we will fillers made of ports, remasters or spin off.

 

Nintendo will be happy if you buy just one device because they will sell you games that can be played on that device. Off course that not every user will buy handheld and home console because they are quite different, but Nintendo will make them lot more similar and with hevi integration people will have more reasons to buy both devices.

They will not have same games!? You realise that one of biggest reason why Nintendo is in this position this gen because they can't any more support two completely different platforms!? Basically whole Nintendo talk about new platform is to prevent that by making platform that will be more like Apple or iOS where you have different devices that can play same games and apps. In that way Nintendo will not need to make two totally different Mario Kart games, two 2D Mario games, two Smash games...they will just make one game that will work on home console and handheld too, in that way they will make more games just for one platform than they could for each platform separate like before. All this probably is most certain thing about NX.

NIntendo very likely next year will release platform with home and handheld console.



Einsam_Delphin said:
DolPhanTendo said:
Wow what short memory Iwata died six months ago so I think they had their thoughts elsewhere. I know most people in here don't care but when a company loses their leader suddenly things are out on hold. It's like just because you came on here and left your comment about him you think you show you cared. Nope because two months later people are complaining the lack of directs, and what not being released. He dies 6 months ago not 3 years, not 2. not even a year.
I'm sorry a death got in the way of your gaming experience for 4 months, show some morals and respect thanks


Time stops for no man. Nintendo themselves showed as much by how they only spent 10 seconds addressing his death in the direct. You can't expect everyone to cry for months and months whenever someone dies. I'm sure instead of wasting time with that Iwata would rather Nintendo keep on running like they always have.

If you're a company that puts respect and morals before money you're okay in my book. This what Nintendo did I respect that. I'm willing to bet the NX has been pushed back by a few months as well. I know it's hard to phanthom businesses putting good morals before making an extra buck or two but I see it all the time here the U.S. And Nintendo seems like they did the same. 

E3 wasn't great this year because they focused on this year only to try to help build excitement for the holidays. But to say they are done supporting is crazy and you aren't thinking. Game releases for 2016 so far are on par for what early 2015 and better the  2014 let's recap.

2014 if can remember only had Tropical Freeze on February 

2015 had Mario Party, Rainbow Curse

2016 Star Fox Pokken Tournament Twilight Princess HD

Late Spring 2014 Mario Kart

                  2015 Splatoon

                  2016 Zelda U( prediction a direct annoucing it early February around Twilight Princess HD 30th anniversary hype)

Looks like it's not Nintendo not supporting the WiiU but like third parties

 

 

 

 



Japanese don't take failure well. The Wii U is on its kamikaze run now.