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SpokenTruth said:

But this is not what you guys are fighting over.  You are not cancelling your pre-orders because women will not being able to customize their bust size but becaue you, the objectifiers in question, cannot customize bust size.

Make the claim it's for the rights of women and you have something valid.  Otherwise, you're missing the whole point.

Why stop there, let's also remove customization options from men too, to stop those evil women objectifying men.

But heres your biggest problem, I, and millions of other gaming women, really don't find breast size adjustment offensive, even when it goes to the extremes, it's actually just amusing how silly it looks, just because the character is female doesn't mean women will feel objectified if men are allowed to adjust the proportions, just as men shouldn't feel objectified that women can adjust mens proportions in a game, too.

Women , just like men, can be sexually attracted to just about anything, slimness, fatness, skinny arms, muscular arms, facial hair, clean shaven, long hair, short hair, bald, tall, short, you name it, with that in mind is character customization then not in itself just objectification of the human form?

Frankly you're preaching in defense of women when the women you're defending don't care about the issues you're covering, that is of course, the women not making a fuss on twitter for financial/social status.



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Hiku said:

Right. Everyone does that. And it's usually fine. But if it's vocalized, or if it's up to you whether a person wears something that makes them look hot to you, then suddenly you'll hear comments like that.

We live in a time where a "wow you're hot" comment is perceived as rape, what do you expect?

Frankly I find the whole thing stupid, people act like women don't do the same thing to men, we do, often, even if we don't shout about it, barely a girl-chat goes by without blunt and frankly brutal objectification of multiple men pertinent to the convosation, but where are the people clammoring to protect men from this menace?

People overblow things so fucking much.



I really couldn't care less. Actually, I can't say that any of Nintendo's recent censorship has bothered me at all. I mean, maybe if the customization in this game were as robust as, say, TERA; I would care, but a bust slider in isolation seems kind of useless. I'd much rather they'd put in a weight slider, because as a tall, skinny dude, I prefer to play as obese midgets wherever possible.



If this little thing keeps you for buying the game... you have bigger issues to deal with...



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Tachikoma said:

I disagree, greatly.

The smallest and largest ends of the slider are all "normal sizes" nothing outlandish, so how is "only for oggling"? why does it have to be directly tied to a sexuality? what if you're a 10 year old kid playing it and you want to at least be a little like your real world self, i.e. short and flat chested?

Removing the slider doesnt just stop people from making them bigger, it stops people from making them smaller, implying that breast size sliders that don't go to extremes is "just for oggling" is taking conservative mummying to the extreme.

Are you implying then, that the only reason I would rather the US version didn't remove the slider is because I want to oggle a game characters normal sized bust?


The larger end of the slider literally defies gravity. It looks like a blow up doll. It doesn't have to be tied to sexuality, but it very clearly was intended to be or else, again, they would have opted to have added at least a waist and weight slider as well to actually reflect most body types instead of just skinny with small tits, skinny with medium tits, skinny with large tits.

Now I'm no rocket surgeon, but I was under the distinct impression that breast sizes were comprized of two factors - cup size and a number indicating a band size around an individual's torso. I guess in the time before the invasion, that number system was scrapped because every woman on Earth evolved to have the same 29-32 strap size. Or maybe that strap number just never mattered and it was always only the letter that mattered. I mean, my totally-not-imaginary-for-the-purpose-of-this-example Japanese friend is a 40DD/AA, so I'm sure she felt right at home when she was offered a cup size slider for her statically 32 sized player character. Basically identical, right? Clearly the cup size is the most important factor in bust size, and the inclusion of the bust slider without any of the other factors that contribute to bust size and shape being accounted for in other sliders or at least template body types was totally nessecary.

I see your question and counter with this: What if you're a 10 year old boy then and you want to be at least a little like your real world self, i.e. not built like an olympic gold metalist? Or a 10 year old chubby girl with a flat chest? Or if you're any other age or gender and again, are not built like an underwear model? Why are there to sliding tools for everyone else? Why just 10 year old girls, skinny women, and skinny silicon-enhanced women, because again, no petite girl with naturally large breasts has boobs that look like that.

It's fuctionally an oggling tool. Does it mean that you personally will use it as one? Obviously not. That was never what I was saying. But let's not kid ourselves by trying to argue that the inclusion of a bust slider in this game was intented by the devs to be anything more than a way to oggle at boobs. You may see the slider as a saving grace for 12-year-old Sally, but the devs were not thinking about that - that much is clear by the way that whole system has been implemented.

Also, some people are into small boobs, too. Variety is the spice of life, my friend.



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hershel_layton said:

I don't even know man. For me I just use whatever I find and go with it.

 

I can only be a Chinese Jew that's tan? Sure, I don't mind.

 

I'm white, but in a game there's only black people? Ok, I'm cool with it.

 

It can be anything for me and I really won't see the need to be dissatisfied with it. Of course, people can disagree. 

 

Usually, I'm not picky with my games. I've always had more modest-like PC's and gaming whatnot over the years, so I really don't feel the need to complain about a game. I just like it or not. 


It it's a preselected character, I don't care. My issue is with character creation. If you're giving me the tools to make a character I want, let me make a character that looks like me. It's honestly more insulting when they try and fail than when they don't try at all.



honestly they should just remove character customisation. Too much time is consumed trying to play with all the parts.

Make me a character to use lol.



 

 

This censoring spree is beyond pathetic. What will remain of Fire Emblem Fates in the western version, I wonder...



This just NA or EU as well, i mean sims 3 never got censored.



F this. If they bring the censored version to EU, it's going to be Dolphin for me. No way am I ever going to support censored games. Such a pity they are doing all these stupid shenanigans, since XCX was on the very short list of Wii U games that I actually wanted to buy.



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