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Mr Puggsly on 10 November 2015
NobleTeam360 said:
Hm, doesn't look like Halo provide that big of a boost, or maybe I just expected more.

Its possible a lot of avid Halo fans already own a X1. Its estimated Halo:MCC has probably sold around 5 million. And ofcourse many are waiting for holidays.



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captain carot on 11 November 2015
b00moscone said:
Mmhmm, yeah. No way is the Vita selling 30k in EU. EU being Sony territory has nothing to do with it, where i live in the UK at least, nobody cares about the Vita. Additionally, there are no push factors for the consumer to buy one, i just don't see where those sales would come from.


Same in Germany. Except for veeeery core gamers really no one cares for the Vita anymore. Looks to be the same in the Netherlands.



bananaking21 on 11 November 2015

PS4 sales at 27.7 million at the end of Oct when official numbers put PS4 at 29.3 shipped at the end of September. yup, seems legit to me.



Burek on 11 November 2015
captain carot said:
b00moscone said:
Mmhmm, yeah. No way is the Vita selling 30k in EU. EU being Sony territory has nothing to do with it, where i live in the UK at least, nobody cares about the Vita. Additionally, there are no push factors for the consumer to buy one, i just don't see where those sales would come from.


Same in Germany. Except for veeeery core gamers really no one cares for the Vita anymore. Looks to be the same in the Netherlands.


I agree. There is still some tiny interest for Vita, but it is usually from the second hand market where you can get it with a 8-16GB card and even a few games for about €80-100. I seriously doubt there are so many people willing to buy it new for double the price.

And I see Killzone Vitas the most. Seems that the bundle sold very well, but that being the last "real" western game on the system, people are getting rid of it. Two years and zero new games is just unacceptable.



GribbleGrunger on 11 November 2015
alabtrosMyster said:

Man your chart makes no sense for the PS4 numbers, we know Sony sold 29.3 million units as of Sept 30th!... you show them at 27.7 a month later...

No, they 'shipped' 29.3m units by the end of Sep but with Sony having the Black Ops/Star Wars bundles and the impending Black Friday rush, it's easy to see how they could have shipped a lot more than they've sold at the moment. I still think it's undertracked but not by as many as it appears.



 

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Ganoncrotch on 11 November 2015
alabtrosMyster said:

Man your chart makes no sense for the PS4 numbers, we know Sony sold 29.3 million units as of Sept 30th!... you show them at 27.7 a month later...


VGchartz numbers are always what is sold through to the customer, not what Sony sold to retailers.



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lonerism on 11 November 2015
captain carot said:
I really don't believe those european Vita sales. Basically no one buys a Vita anymore.


Indeed

Those numbers seem stupidly high



Roronaa_chan on 11 November 2015

I don't know if anyone noticed but with the hardware YoY tool (the one that's not broken) you can see that VGC gives PS4 the NPD win. ~350k vs ~300k. We'll see how that stacks up against tomorrow.  Numbers don't seem right tbh, including global. PS4 with price cut is flat and X1 a neglible (~30k-50k WW) increase with Halo 5? 



binary solo on 11 November 2015
Roronaa_chan said:

I don't know if anyone noticed but with the hardware YoY tool (the one that's not broken) you can see that VGC gives PS4 the NPD win. ~350k vs ~300k. We'll see how that stacks up against tomorrow.  Numbers don't seem right tbh, including global. PS4 with price cut is flat and X1 a neglible (~30k-50k WW) increase with Halo 5? 

For PS4 you have to drill down to the weekly numbers. The week before the price cut - w/e 11 Oct - PS4 will be substantially down on 2014, the subsequent weeks PS4 will be substantially up, but that one down week will over the course of the month make the $50 cut seem like it has had less of an effect that it did. The one week we do have hard number for, - 31 Oct - PS4 is up YoY by 27K or 10%. That's possibly a bit on the low side but it is up.



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captain carot on 11 November 2015

Q1 (fiscal year) saw 25.3 million PS4 shipped.
Q2 added aqnother 4 million.

Question is, have retailers been building up stock? Cause production capacities still are limited to some degree and the last two months usually see far more PS4 sold than produced.

While i'm not saying that PS4 isn't possibly undertracked that is sort of another option for the numbers.

With another 1.6 million shipped PS4 from october there would've be over 3 million on the shelves though.