People actually think Halo 5 won't get past 5 million? Halo MCC got past 5 million life time. Halo 5 will probably end up around 8 - 9 million life time. Halo 6 should do better because xbox one install base will be bigger by then. The only Halo that is comparable to Halo 5 in terms of circumstance is Halo 3. Halo 3 has the biggest budget of all them as well as no competition (COD wasn't a thing). Besides, Microsoft has more than enough money to buy / make new exclusive franchise to push units. They bought Gears of War and Minecraft this generation alone. There will be plenty more to come.

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they will be making a profit, but it will be way off their intial expectations..

Well i dont need to read again, i can comprehend. Zero buzz?? i doubt it. Confusing, Yes!.. But Yamachi messaging was clear on who they are targeting and what their overall vision is (esport/GT Academy). But about the actual game, he said and showed nothing, do we know if it is a full on acrade racer, what kind of online/offline support, social features it will have, graphics new features??. But sure the game is going downhill, because they didnt show anything.

You think PD are being stubborn because they are unwilling to change. Again! could you please tell me, what did they show or said that made you think that what they were announcing is similar to previous GT when they clearly said its not GT7 or a prologue, only thing they said this game will be enjoyed by people from 7 to 77, which I dont think PD ever targeted those age groups. You are dissing a game based on knowing almost next to nothing, assuming that it will be similar to previous iteration.. If thats how you form an opinion, then good job.

Well that's just obvious.

You keep bringing up "14 year old series" as if to say "it's an old series, so it's ok that there isn't as much interest". No, Halo 5 sales aren't near prior Halo's because people know 343i now. Halo 4 sold well off Halo 3 being the last numbered Halo (ODST was an expansion and Reach was essentially a spin off), but after seeing that game and MCC, people are wary of Halo now. 

And (note: this is purely anectdotal) my current roommate said he went over a friend's place last weekend and played Halo 5 and said "that game is pretty much identical to the last game. I'm not buying it" (he has an XBOne). I'm sure there's new things in Halo 5 that he just didn't see in the weekend he got to play the game, but his first impression wasn't good. And Halo 5 being the lowest scoring mainline game (not that it has a bad score, by any means, but it is the lowest scoring) probably reflects such sentiments. Not because it's a "14 year old series"

Yeah, its an old series. It spans across 3 generations and still does bigger numbers than most IPs. That's an achievement that generally doesn't last this long.

ODST wasn't an expansion. It had its own campaign, it had its own multiplayer mode called Firefight, but it shared the PvP of Halo 3.

Reach was a prequel and a major release. It wasn't a spin off, it lead to the events of the Halo trilogy.

Halo 5 is the lowest scoring game by a few points. Big deal, diminishing returns and multiplayer content is still coming.

Again, my I mention its 14 years old because it beat the odds and still achieves more success than many IPs. Halo 5 is being treated as a failure and it will do objectively strong numbers in my opinion.

We've seen AC, CoD, GT, BF, and other popular IPs decline even when they make objectively better games from previous years. The market changes. Also, the performance of some IPs can be dependent on success of the platform. For example, the Mario IP does better some generations depending on the success of the platform.

But BMaker11 you got to admit that it's quite understandable that mega popular 14-year-old series is declining. How do you maintain its popularity with many new games releasing all the time? You have to come up with new ideas, otherwise it's "more of the same boooring", but original fans have their own idea what the game should be and might be upset for the minor changes to gameplay.

In the end Halo is just a first-person shooter among others, I'm absolutely sure it would on a decline even if Bungie was still developing it.

It did decline with Halo Reach.

http://www.ticgn.com/halo-master-chief-collection-reaches-5-million-sales/

Yes, I know it is estimated, but we all know by now it is pass the 5 million mark. The other halos didn't even sale a whole lot during this time. So it is pretty safe to assume.