Zekkyou said:
3sexty said:
Why do people keep saying that the xboxone is in a not so good state/ shape when it is still leading the 360 in the equivalent timeframe? Was the 360 in poor shape at the same time point in time? Not sure I understand this??
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It wasn't necessarily in 'poor shape', but the 360 did have quite a slow start, and had a very drawn out peak period (VGC numbers):
2005: 1.2m 2006: 6.8m 2007: 7.9m 2008: 10.9m 2009: 10.2m 2010: 13.3m 2011: 13.8m 2012: 10.7m 2013: 6.2m 2014: 2.6m
So while the X1 is presently a few million ahead, in relative terms it's outpacing a console that hasn't yet entered its very drawn out peak period. So unless the X1 sees a similar sales curve (which presently seems unlikely), or something happens to cause its sales to fly through the roof for the next few years, it will fall quite short of the 360 once all it said and done. It's not completely outside the realm of possibility that the X1 ends up ahead, it just looks rather unlucky right now.
That all said, i personally think those saying that the X1 is in a bad place are wrong. Even if it does fail to match its predecessor by a large margin, it's doing more than well enough to justify its existence. If it wasn't it wouldn't have such strong 3rd party support.
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I dunno. I think Xbox is the Anti-Nintendo in terms of 3rd party support. 3rd parites know that for most games a Xbox release will make its money back and they mostly see that there is commercial benefit in not having a complete hardware monopoly. And even if Xbox is not doing very well games will still sell decently enough.
People who think Xb one has a chance of selling like 360 are delluding themselves, but it's also pretty clear that Xb one will pass Xb og LTD fairly easily and thus it will acheive an install base that would be pretty respectable under most circumstances. Only the final LTD for Xb one is likely to be disappointing because MS squandered what it achieved with 360 in a manner that seems to mimic Sony's squandering of the PS2 achievement, and in the minds of some people if MS had done things right Xbox would be the number 1 global console hardware. So if they end the generaion 2:1 behind PS4 that is a huge loss of potential.
I of course never though Xbox had a chance of being number 1 globally even if they got everything right. But I was expecting Xbox to sell something more like 1:1.2-1.3 vs PS4 globally, until the Xb one announcements and PR nightmares happened. Ultimately if MS is not disappointed with this generation then they won't have learned anything. And we know Sony was ultimately disappointed with the PS3 generation because with PS4 they showed they learned a lot, and they produced something that allowed the market to forgive, even though they won't have forgotten. I just hope Sony doesn;t think that by the end of this generation people will have forgotten. If they think the gamer market has forgotten they may well screw up again. Perhaps the fate of Xb one will help Sony not to delude themselves into thinking the market has forgotten.
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