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Aura7541 on 07 November 2015
Snoopy said:

What game are you talking about for Nintendo? Halo 5 will sale around what the Wii U sold life time lol. And talking abour franchise decline, GT 6 sold like crap compare to the rest of the series so who knows what GT7 will sale like lol.

That is what happens when you launch a PS3 game a few weeks after you launched the PS4. The lack of marketing didn't help the game, either. Even then, it still sold a lot, just not as much as its predecessors.



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Snoopy on 07 November 2015
Aura7541 said:
Snoopy said:

Preorder does not equal sales at all. People forget to pick up the game, they cancel the game, they ignore the game or sometimes they will buy the game at a later date. Also, Halo 5 physical sales are not way lower. It is around Halo 4 league (3.8 million) and if Digital and physical gets counted together is right there with it despite not having the userbase that was xbox 360 in 2012. 

Do you have a citation that proves that cancelled preorders make a huge difference? Yes or no? You have not provided any empirical evidence, so why make such a faith-based claim?

The rest of your comment reeks of ignorance. Halo 3 and Reach, for instance, sold 3.3 million physical copies in the US alone. 1.4-1.5 is less than half of that. The digital rate has to be unrealistically astronomical in order to compensate for such a gap.


Halo 4 sold 3.8 million world wide first week. Halo 5 sales according to OP is first month DEBUT which is only 4 days. So 3 more days can easily put it above 2 million in U.S. alone with UK and the rest of the world and of course digitial sales it will probably meet those sales. That and the fact Halo 4 came out when 360 had a bigger user base. The series is doing fine. COD had a decline from MW3 and onwards ,but not one will ever ever call it a failure. Also, I never argued percentage regaring preorders, just a fact that everyone who preorders not going to buy it and Microsoft never released first week sales for Halo title like you claimed so you're wrong yet again.



Teeqoz on 07 November 2015
Snoopy said:
Teeqoz said:


Nintendo has released at least 7 titles this gen that will sell more than Halo 5. Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 will likely be rather close in sales, considering Uncharted's sales has grown for each consecutive entry, and the PS4 is the leading console this gen, while judging from what we know, Halo 5 has dropped substantially from previous mainline entries. I also wouldn't count out Gran Turismo 7 when it comes to outselling Halo 5.


What game are you talking about for Nintendo? Halo 5 will sale around what the Wii U sold life time lol. And talking abour franchise decline, GT 6 sold like crap compare to the rest of the series so who knows what GT7 will sale like lol.


Oh you know, Pokemon XY, Pokemon OrAs, Mario Kart 7, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Animal Crossing: New Leaf and Super Smash Bros 3DS. Also no, based on the info we have, Halo 5 will end up with lifetime sales of less than 10 million (on the high end). The Wii U will sell ~15 million. Actually, I think Mario Kart 8 even has a chance at outselling Halo 5.



Snoopy on 07 November 2015
Aura7541 said:
Snoopy said:

What game are you talking about for Nintendo? Halo 5 will sale around what the Wii U sold life time lol. And talking abour franchise decline, GT 6 sold like crap compare to the rest of the series so who knows what GT7 will sale like lol.

That is what happens when you launch a PS3 game a few weeks after you launched the PS4. The lack of marketing didn't help the game, either. Even then, it still sold a lot, just not as much as its predecessors.


Is that why COD, Madden, Fifa,BF and more games sold well on ps3, but not GT6 lol.



JRPGfan on 07 November 2015
TheSting said:
Ali_16x said:


Ugh, I was sure I put Microsoft, going to ask mods to change it.


I believe digital is more than that. Well it's rumor anyway so it doesn't matter 

From a vetted guy... that proved he knows someone with access to actual numbers.

If he couldnt prove that, or someone else on gaf had the "real" numbers and this guy lied or made them up, he would have been banned.

 

Basically you cant just go "oh its just a rumor" to this.



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SWORDF1SH on 07 November 2015
Snoopy said:


Halo 4 sold 3.8 million world wide first week. Halo 5 sales according to OP is first month DEBUT which is only 4 days. So 3 more days can easily put it above 2 million in U.S. alone with UK and the rest of the world and of course digitial sales it will probably meet those sales. That and the fact Halo 4 came out when 360 had a bigger user base. The series is doing fine. COD had a decline from MW3 and onwards ,but not one will ever ever call it a failure. Also, I never argued percentage regaring preorders, just a fact that everyone who preorders not going to buy it and Microsoft never released first week sales for Halo title like you claimed so you're wrong yet again.

I'm sorry but you going to have to quote exactly what was said because they could consider the last week that spills over into November has part of October. You know like NPD will do. Or is it calendar month.



Aura7541 on 07 November 2015
Snoopy said:
Aura7541 said:

Do you have a citation that proves that cancelled preorders make a huge difference? Yes or no? You have not provided any empirical evidence, so why make such a faith-based claim?

The rest of your comment reeks of ignorance. Halo 3 and Reach, for instance, sold 3.3 million physical copies in the US alone. 1.4-1.5 is less than half of that. The digital rate has to be unrealistically astronomical in order to compensate for such a gap.

Halo 4 sold 3.8 million world wide first week. Halo 5 sales according to OP is first month DEBUT which is only 4 days. So 3 more days can easily put it above 2 million in U.S. alone with UK and the rest of the world and of course digitial sales it will probably meet those sales. That and the fact Halo 4 came out when 360 had a bigger user base. The series is doing fine. COD had a decline from MW3 and onwards ,but not one will ever ever call it a failure. Also, I never argued percentage regaring preorders, just a fact that everyone who preorders not going to buy it and Microsoft never released first week sales for Halo title like you claimed so you're wrong yet again.

I agree that the seres is doing fine, but it is also experiencing a not-so-negligible decline. Also, the userbase argument doesn't really work since Halo 3 also had a similar debut and the 360's userbase was even smaller (especially, when you take into account the RROD).

You're also repeating the same things you have said before. I already pointed out that Halo 5 is facing competition from Black Ops 3 and Battlefront. Abdiel has pointed out that Halo 5 vanished when BO3 launched and Battlefront is getting a lot of hype leading up to its launch on November 17. Halo 5 may have legs, but they might not start churning until after November when the hype around Battlefront will have settled down.

Snoopy said:

Is that why COD, Madden, Fifa,BF and more games sold well on ps3, but not GT6 lol.

Nice non sequitor. GT6's sales likely resulted from circumstance rather than decline, which was my main point.



elektranine on 07 November 2015
Zekkyou said:
elektranine said:

1.5 million is beyond horrible for a Halo. Halo is Microsoft's largest and most popular IP with hundreds of millions of $ being spent on it every year. If true with so low and a marketing budget like this its going to be a long time before they even break even. Past Halos have sold alot more and with smaller install bases. Maybe Halo is no longer that big and other games have surpassed it in popularity. For comparision Uncharted 3 sold 3.8 million in its first 24 hours and the last of us remastered edition sold more than a million in ist first month. Plus microsoft's game tend to be very front loaded and sell most of there lifetime sells within the first 1-2 weeks.

And for their $400 million revenue in a week PR statement they must have included all xbox hardeware not just Halo themed stuff.

3.8m is how many they shipped, not sold. I can't find an official source for FW sales, but VGC have it at 1.35m.

VGC is dead wrong, they constantly undertrack playstation products while overtracking xbox products. This was announced by sony and confirmed by many third party sources such as Gamespot and others.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies/1100-6344707/

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Uncharted-3-Sells-3-8-Million-Copies-One-Day-36895.html

https://www.vg247.com/2011/11/10/uncharted-3-sells-3-8-million-units-on-day-one/

Uncharted 3 has the highest first 24hr sales of any exclusive videogame in history.

The only places that decided to spread FUD about it were places like IGN and eurogamer. Keep in mind these same places take MIcrosoft released sales as truth and never questions it.



Insidb on 07 November 2015
SWORDF1SH said:

Never heard digital sales mentioned so much in a thread.

When we do sales for other games, make sure we stay consistent and keep digital in mind.

I think it's perfectly relavant, but very few people attempt to qualify the numbers they use. 

When the numbers are baseless, they almost always are rooted in some sort of fanboyism.



SWORDF1SH on 07 November 2015
elektranine said:

VGC is dead wrong, they constantly undertrack playstation products while overtracking xbox products. This was announced by sony and confirmed by many third party sources such as Gamespot and others.

This is why I used to have an issue with VGC. I have a good feeling for the future of VGC numbers now though.