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episteme said:
tak13 said:


ooops! Episteme, psp is 82.3m

You missed the last quarter, FY14 Q4 (JAN-MARCH 2015) psp+psv 450K (most of it represents psv, since it's the final quarter of psp) ! :P

PSV is at 9.76m as of FY14 Q3 (OCT-DEC 2014)

Yes, I edited it because I forgot one quarter. But the "around 82M" for PSP is basically confirmed now.

You have good memory I see!:P Yeah, it was said that is a rounded number but that wasn't clear, I'm shocked that psp is more than 82m..(82.2-82.3m)

And just think it shipped 6m, in the quarters that psv shipped 8.4m, that's insane, the predecessor sold near the successor after being on sale for 8-10 years.... WOW!



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Ryng_Tolu said:
episteme said:

Assuming that the 9.76 are correct, but where exactly is it from?


I follow you on twitter, and saw that you replied  to that post, and when I saw it's content, I was shocked, finally an official figure of psv shipments and a recent one! 

So you have contributed a lot to that thread, I would have ignored that informative tweet, without your comments on the tweet! ;) ;) ;) ;)

 

So the attacks in my previous thread towards  me , based on the ''there are 82m psp in the wild from sony executive'' which was being considered a random thing from the journalist (he would use an outdated number if he hadn't been infromed) by some people, while the article points out that he was asked for numbers, and didn't give any update for psv, are being officialy proved unjust!

I will seek for apologizes! Vindication!



I always thought that huge adjustment back in April was strange.

So, VG Chartz has PS Vita with 12.6m by October 3rd. What would be a more accurate number?



Alex_The_Hedgehog said:
I always thought that huge adjustment back in April was strange.

So, VG Chartz has PS Vita with 12.6m by October 3rd. What would be a more accurate number?


I can't say with ease, because the adjustment in april has influnced all the weeks as of Now, the weeks with psv having 40-50k sales, and the strange 20k in europe!

 

As you see in my post Psv sales must be at 9.9m sold as of March 31th with 300k on the shelves given the 10.2m shipped as of March 31th, and the fact that psv has sold 4m since its launch till January while here it was at 4.4m, showing that it was overtracked by 400k since 2013 regardless the overtracking after the huge adjustment back in april!

psv was at 10.3m as of March 31th 2015 before the adjustment up here, while it had shipped 10.2m seemingly (it could be a little bit less)...

So removing the 400k, we get 9.9m leaving 300k units on the shelves, which is reasonable for a console selling like psv!

The adjustment was 1.3m, and the 400k units surplus from 2013, are summing up 1.7m, 12.6m-1.7= 10.9m but keep in mind that the sales since april are based to the new numbers after the adjustement, when the 20k-30k base became 40k-50k, therefore it might be lower than 10.9m...



As was discussed in the GAF thread on this - why is this CESA "white paper" updated with LTD shipments for Vita as of 31st December 2014, but is about 2 years out of date with their PSP data?

Surely if they have access to manufacturer's shipment data, they'd ask for the full whack (i.e. every console), not just pick and choose some of them.

Aside from that, Sony have gone to every effort to obscure Vita shipments since its launch, going as far as to stopping disclosing handheld shipments this year. I don't get why they'd suddenly just openly disclose to a source like this.

If it is reliable, then all we've got to go on is that it was 9.76m as of December 2014... so looks about on track here, probably a little bit overtracked (9.63m as of December 27th). The rest is just commentary based on that I'm-not-convinced-is-reliable 82m PSP figure which we've discussed to death in the other thread.

Maybe they'll release another white paper at the end of this year and then you can finally put an end to this argument :P



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the WiiU is never going to outsell it you just have to accept it!



Kresnik said:
As was discussed in the GAF thread on this - why is this CESA "white paper" updated with LTD shipments for Vita as of 31st December 2014, but is about 2 years out of date with their PSP data?

Surely if they have access to manufacturer's shipment data, they'd ask for the full whack (i.e. every console), not just pick and choose some of them.

Aside from that, Sony have gone to every effort to obscure Vita shipments since its launch, going as far as to stopping disclosing handheld shipments this year. I don't get why they'd suddenly just openly disclose to a source like this.

If it is reliable, then all we've got to go on is that it was 9.76m as of December 2014... so looks about on track here, probably a little bit overtracked (9.63m as of December 27th). The rest is just commentary based on that I'm-not-convinced-is-reliable 82m PSP figure which we've discussed to death in the other thread.

Maybe they'll release another white paper at the end of this year and then you can finally put an end to this argument :P

Yeah, you're forgetting  that ioi adjusted  it psv up by 1.3m in April (without  fixing the previous weeks, that's why it's near to the official figure of shipments)... So what? For instance, Npd doesn't dicloses its numbers and fights hard to not have them leaked, but they're getting leaked...

Sony Japan may do that but it didn't prevent us from learning that 600k psv  have been sold as of June 2015 in spain and 446k in France as of december 2014, both from the mouth of sony's exutives... Plus that we're occasioanlly getting updated LTD numbers for european markets by news sites,  and GFK hide its numbers, they don't even give us rankings and sometimes gaffers on pal chart threads are leaking them!

 

Sony shipped 450k psp+psv in FY14 Q4 (JAN-MAR 2015), we agree that most of it represents psv, like 400k, + 9.76M+400k=10.16m, vgc had it at 10.3m, and then ioi adjusted up to 11.6m...

Also, the guardian points out that psv sales since it's launch till january 2013 are at 4m vs 4.4m here... Even, without the adjustment up of april, psv was overtracked, but excluding the guardian  thing, vgc had the sales to be more than the shipments regardless, and it deteriorated it with the huge adjustment up!

Let's not comment about that 82m psp again, this new thread isn't based on that,  I just included it the findings from the previous one to support them with the new findings, which are official now! :P

Come on kresnik, all things add up... Then the interview, now that paper!

 

Excluding all these things, do you find rational, that europe is now psv best selling market instead of Japan, where psv is having game support+the merit of handheld market dominance, while in europe, the absolute nothing?



Sprash said:
the WiiU is never going to outsell it you just have to accept it!


I don't have to accept anything, because I don't care so much... Apparently, You are the one that aches for wii u not passing psv, not me for wii u outselling psv...

This thread is not about wii u vs psv...

 

Keep the console wars and sly innuendos regarding my console  preferences out of my thread, please!



Sprash said:
the WiiU is never going to outsell it you just have to accept it!

It probably already has, PSV figures are very hush hush ;)



tak13 said:
Sprash said:
the WiiU is never going to outsell it you just have to accept it!


I don't have to accept anything, because I don't care so much... Apparently, You are the one that aches for wii u not passing psv, not me for wii u outselling psv...

This thread is not about wii u vs psv...

 

Keep the console wars and sly innuendos regarding my console  preferences out of my thread, please!

Bolded: Äh no If that would interest me I would try to debunk you but I ain't doing that. After all these threads about the Vita and how it is overtracked.

So, by how much sold is the vita now after this wall of text I still don't know?