Xenoblade X looks decent, nothing revolutionary though. That's simply my opinion. With regards to the world, I hate comparing games, but I'm seeing better worlds from Horizon and Fallout. Doesn't mean Xeno X is bad, just that this isn't the game to show how Nintendo is on top of their game.

W101 and B2 are not made by Nintendo. I hate this back and forth that people do. I hate hearing "Nintendo is responsible for making great 3rd party games like Bayonetta 2" and then hearing "Nintendo had nothing to do with games like Devil's Third." Nintendo just published the game, that's it. They did not make bayo 2 into the masterpiece that it is, just as the did not make D3 the atrocity that it is.

MK DD introduced actual gameplay changes while having great graphics and amazing local multiplayer for its time. MK8 improved on balance, but removed local multiplayer and Double riders for a less influential mechanic (antigravity).

Star fox is made with Miyamoto's direction. Bayo 2 and W101 were not. Nintendo is working with platinum for starfox, as opposed to giving platinum the freedom to do what they want, like Bayo 2. I'm not being unfair here. I attribute smash bros to Nintendo because Nintendo did the main decision making even though they worked with Bandai Namco to make it. I attribute Starfox to Nintendo, because they are the ones leading the project.

3d world is not a proper 3d mario game for me. It is part of the new 2.5/3d line that was spawned by super mario 3d land. It completely changes the objective from exploration and quests to pure platforming. mario 64, sunshine, Galaxy and Galaxy 2 were not pure platformers. Going to a level gave you the freedom to explore the level and complete quests out of order. 3d world, on the other hand, adds a timer to every level and says "get to the finish before time runs out."

Nintendo decided to give up mid way through this Gen. They'll start making better games starting Gen 9, I hope. I was really hoping Gen 8 would be better v.v 8 is my favorite number ;-;

Nothing I've seen from Fallout 4 so far even matches that world, not even close, it's your opinion sure but you can't establish them not having ambition based on that when the is no other game like XCX, the topic is not about you alone but in general, if XCX was exactly as it is now on another platform it would still get as much praise and be highlighted as ambitious it even had a positive reception at the Paris Game Show.

So what if PG developed it watch the developer videos Nintendo had a hand in developing the games according to PG themselves, the games became even better due to their input, this is not much different from Star Fox, you can't have one rule for one and change it for another to suit your argument. Again the topic is not about just you it's about things in general, it's doesn't matter what you consider a 3D Mario because end of the day 3DW is a 3D Mario game, it even higlights an irony in people who sout loud and hard about Nintendo needing to change things up and when they do you get the "It's not a real..." nonsense.

It's highly contradictory to the stance you're pushing, Galaxy and Galaxy 2 were linear and even in the 2nd game you were more limted then you are in 3DW.

Retro is Nintendo, at this point no doubt a number of primary Nintendo software developers have been integrated into that unit

Retro did the last few Donkey Kong games... they are as "Nintendo" as you can get

in terms of serious games- I think Bayonetta falls in that category, even if Nintendo just funded it. while it's true there have not been a plethora of intense adventure games for the Wii U, I think it would be fair to give Nintendo a littleeee room here. generally in their history they have done a good job at maintaing relative balance by releasing more adult friendly adventure games

it would appear you (the OP) are extremely fond of the Zelda and Metroid series in the more serious tone (as am I) so I understand your frustration since both have been absent this generation

that said, Xenoblade is coming out and obviously that is not really a child-friendly games in terms of difficulty. I do find frustration in Nintendo for the massive Zelda delay, especially when it's been hyped up for so long, and the quiet hush hush on any Metroid Projects.

you will likely find a lot more solace with the late Wii U library or that of the NX, but it would seem that Nintendo has been holding back their more serious projects

a new Xenoblade is about to come out lol

I don't think Nintendo will make more epic games unless they expand or reduce the amount of games they develop. They are currently stretched thin and it seems like they will go the cheapskate console route with the NX, which will most likely fail.

I miss Paper Mario r.i.p 2000 - 2004

Wasn't this game called Splatoon released this year or I'm imagining that

I get what he means. There was a boundary pushing magic to the bigger Nintendo games of old. Now while don't get me wrong, they are fantastic games, the Wii U has many of my favourite games this gen, they are also a lot more conservative in scope.

Super Mario 3D World is highly polished, but lacks scale. Mario Kart 8 is highly polished, but there is nothing particularly revolutionary to it. Can't speak for smash, but I presume that's the same. Splatoon, very nicely polished, but no boundaries are pushed.

Everything is a lot more evolutionary rather than revolutionary from Nintendo at the moment.

There's a difference between an awesome game and an "epic" game (in the way the OP means).