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Insidb on 04 November 2015

Here's some quick math, to give this debate an air of reasonability:

Destiny made $325 million in week 1, by selling 2.43 million units (according to VGC).
Halo 5 made $400 million in week 1, by selling a maximum of 1.23X as many or 2.99 million units.

If you believe VGC's Destiny sales estimates, then we have a benchmark (not just random guesstimating and sniping).



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jason1637 on 04 November 2015
Arkaign said:
jason1637 said:
Also if we compare to destiny 1st week on all platforms it did 325million
SANTA MONICA, Calif.—(BUSINESS WIRE)— Activision Publishing, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Activision Blizzard, Inc.(Nasdaq: ATVI), announced today that its highly anticipated new franchise Destiny sold-through more than $325 million worldwide in its first five days, according to Chart-Track, first parties, retail customer sell-through information and Activision Blizzard internal estimates. http://kotaku.com/all-the-ways-activision-is-avoiding-saying-what-destiny-1654985376


With or without hardware, controllers, yadda?


software only



Arkaign on 04 November 2015
jason1637 said:
Arkaign said:


With or without hardware, controllers, yadda?


software only


I get the feeling that many are arguing apples and oranges when what we've got are effing bananas bro :)



Puppyroach on 04 November 2015
Insidb said:
Here's some quick math, to give this debate an air of reasonability:

Destiny made $325 million in week 1, by selling 2.43 million units (according to VGC).
Halo 5 made $400 million in week 1, by selling a maximum of 1.23X as many or 2.99 million units.

If you believe VGC's Destiny sales estimates, then we have a benchmark (not just random guesstimating and sniping).

Wait a second, didn't it sell 2.1 million the first on PS4 alone according to VGC? Or am I missing something here?



jason1637 on 04 November 2015
Puppyroach said:
Insidb said:
Here's some quick math, to give this debate an air of reasonability:

Destiny made $325 million in week 1, by selling 2.43 million units (according to VGC).
Halo 5 made $400 million in week 1, by selling a maximum of 1.23X as many or 2.99 million units.

If you believe VGC's Destiny sales estimates, then we have a benchmark (not just random guesstimating and sniping).

Wait a second, didn't it sell 2.1 million the first on PS4 alone according to VGC? Or am I missing something here?


According to vgchartz destiny sold 4 million copies from ps4+x1+x360+ps3



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riecsou on 04 November 2015

I have decided to read previous statement and PR for other halos. For Halo 2 PR they mentioned the numbers they sold first day. For Halo 3, Halo 4, I did the math, it seems like they included Hardware in their revenue. It is too late now for me to post all the math.



Insidb on 04 November 2015
BraLoD said:
Insidb said:
Here's some quick math, to give this debate an air of reasonability:

Destiny made $325 million in week 1, by selling 2.43 million units (according to VGC).
Halo 5 made $400 million in week 1, by selling a maximum of 1.23X as many or 2.99 million units.

If you believe VGC's Destiny sales estimates, then we have a benchmark (not just random guesstimating and sniping).


Did Destiny data included all kinds of hardware and software and not only the game revenue?

Because that's the main point of discussion here, Halo 5, the game, didn't movedf $400M in game sales. That's accounting a lot of stuff related to it, as very expensive $500 bundles with the console being most likely accounted at full price.

As said in a post earlier, if the bundles account for 200k, that alone would make $100M. And that would only account for 200k sales to the game. Which would need 1.666M sales at full price ($60) to account for that.

See the disparity? 100M there can have a gap of almost a 1.5M of game sold to another 100M.

Others have said that this is softward only, which stands to reason: MS manufactures and sells the hardware and the software; Activision Blizzard only manufactures and sells the software.



Insidb on 04 November 2015
jason1637 said:
Puppyroach said:

Wait a second, didn't it sell 2.1 million the first on PS4 alone according to VGC? Or am I missing something here?


According to vgchartz destiny sold 4 million copies from ps4+x1+x360+ps3

This is the VGC article that cites 2.43 million copies in week 1: 

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251878/destiny-sells-24-million-units-first-week-in-us-ps4-and-xbox-one-sales-jump-more-than-200/

Note that these are US numbers, which are the most relavant to Halo 5.



jason1637 on 04 November 2015
Insidb said:
BraLoD said:


Did Destiny data included all kinds of hardware and software and not only the game revenue?

Because that's the main point of discussion here, Halo 5, the game, didn't movedf $400M in game sales. That's accounting a lot of stuff related to it, as very expensive $500 bundles with the console being most likely accounted at full price.

As said in a post earlier, if the bundles account for 200k, that alone would make $100M. And that would only account for 200k sales to the game. Which would need 1.666M sales at full price ($60) to account for that.

See the disparity? 100M there can have a gap of almost a 1.5M of game sold to another 100M.

Others have said that this is softward only, which stands to reason: MS manufactures and sells the hardware and the software; Activision Blizzard only manufactures and sells the software.


Also i did some math and if halo 5 bundles sold atleast 200k thats 100m and if controllers sold 100k thats 5 m 400m-105m is 295m and thats less than destiny 325m software. Now destiny sold 4 million fw acording to vgchartz. Now that puts halo<destiny. Also halo 4 made 300m fw.



jason1637 on 04 November 2015
Insidb said:
jason1637 said:


According to vgchartz destiny sold 4 million copies from ps4+x1+x360+ps3

This is the VGC article that cites 2.43 million copies in week 1: 

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251878/destiny-sells-24-million-units-first-week-in-us-ps4-and-xbox-one-sales-jump-more-than-200/

Note that these are US numbers, which are the most relavant to Halo 5.

Im speaking about WW.