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X1Gates said:
cod on xbone is beasting and sony has marketing deals, which proves that exclusive marketing is a waste of money and time (should spend that money on first party).




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PS4 has 2 skus in the top 10! Even though Xb one has the 3rd and 4th placed skus, their placement in the chart makes it hard not to come to the conclusion that right now PS4 is actually selling 2:1 over Xb one on Amazon. If it isn't it must be damned close to it.

When it comes to the weekly rankings, do people think they accurately represent the over all weekly sales in the USA? i.e. if PS4 is ahead on Amazon for the week then it is ahead nation-wide? Because comparing weekly for week 1 and VGC's November week 1 for USA they show oppoosite results.

VGC gives Xb one the win by a pretty decent margin
XOne 148,367
PS4 129,272

But the final week 1 rankings (with bundles on pre-order removed) on Amazon give a very different picture
#14 PS4 CoD
#20 PS4 NDC
#29 XBO Gears
#43 XBO 3 Games
#51 XBO Madden
#82 XBO + Kinect + 3 Games
#92 XBO Halo 5

2 PS4 skus in the top 20, the top Xb one sku is #29. There are a lot more Xb one skus in the list, but we know from historical NPD results that it's really just the top ranking skus that predict the actual US sales picture.

IMO Amazon is probably fairly reliable on the weeklies, though perhaps not quite as reliable as the monthlies, and that a very clear win for a console in a given week means a high probability that globally in the USA that console sold the most.

We know this isn't going to be the case when a significant pre-order bundle is releasing in a certain week, so Halo 5 didn't win the Amazon week on the week it released, but the pre-orders clearly put Xb one over the top. But the week all the CoD bundles come home to roost and PS4 doesn't get the win on VGS even though actual Amazon sales for the week puts PS4 ahead AND there are all those CoD pre-ordered bundles coming in.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

3 hours after last update:

#07 PS4 Star Wars Standard Bundle (up 1)
#09 PS4 Black Ops Bundle (same)
#23 XB1 Gears Bundle (same)
#32 XB1 Fallout Bundle (down 3)
#43 PS4 Nathan Drake Bundle (down 4)
#65 WiiU Mario Kart (up 1)
#93 XB1 Three Game Bundle (re-entry)
#95 PS4 Star Wars CE Bundle (re-entry)

PS4 - 3 bundles, 3 in the top 100
XB1 - 9 bundles, 2 in the top 100


XB1 Deals:

Gears Bundle + 3 months LIVE. ($349)
Gears Bundle ($326)


PS4 Deals:

None at the moment



 

The PS5 Exists. 


binary solo said:

PS4 has 2 skus in the top 10! Even though Xb one has the 3rd and 4th placed skus, their placement in the chart makes it hard not to come to the conclusion that right now PS4 is actually selling 2:1 over Xb one on Amazon. If it isn't it must be damned close to it.

When it comes to the weekly rankings, do people think they accurately represent the over all weekly sales in the USA? i.e. if PS4 is ahead on Amazon for the week then it is ahead nation-wide? Because comparing weekly for week 1 and VGC's November week 1 for USA they show oppoosite results.

VGC gives Xb one the win by a pretty decent margin
XOne 148,367
PS4 129,272

But the final week 1 rankings (with bundles on pre-order removed) on Amazon give a very different picture
#14 PS4 CoD
#20 PS4 NDC
#29 XBO Gears
#43 XBO 3 Games
#51 XBO Madden
#82 XBO + Kinect + 3 Games
#92 XBO Halo 5

2 PS4 skus in the top 20, the top Xb one sku is #29. There are a lot more Xb one skus in the list, but we know from historical NPD results that it's really just the top ranking skus that predict the actual US sales picture.

IMO Amazon is probably fairly reliable on the weeklies, though perhaps not quite as reliable as the monthlies, and that a very clear win for a console in a given week means a high probability that globally in the USA that console sold the most.

We know this isn't going to be the case when a significant pre-order bundle is releasing in a certain week, so Halo 5 didn't win the Amazon week on the week it released, but the pre-orders clearly put Xb one over the top. But the week all the CoD bundles come home to roost and PS4 doesn't get the win on VGS even though actual Amazon sales for the week puts PS4 ahead AND there are all those CoD pre-ordered bundles coming in.

Considering Amazon's alignment with other, major online retailers' sales charts, I have to think it's an issue with VGC's sales model. I find it hard to believe that those CoD preorders did not provide a boost similar to that of Halo 5 to the XBox (at launch week). If I'm not mistaken, the CoD bundle was very high on the charts, higher even than the Halo 5 bundle. While the respective volumes for each month is unknown, it's hard to imagine that they did not have similar popularity and relative sales.



X1Gates said:
cod on xbone is beasting and sony has marketing deals, which proves that exclusive marketing is a waste of money and time (should spend that money on first party).


Being a game that's probably the top choice for free giveaways with Xbox One bundles this month has little to do with it I'm sure.



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binary solo said:

PS4 has 2 skus in the top 10! Even though Xb one has the 3rd and 4th placed skus, their placement in the chart makes it hard not to come to the conclusion that right now PS4 is actually selling 2:1 over Xb one on Amazon. If it isn't it must be damned close to it.

When it comes to the weekly rankings, do people think they accurately represent the over all weekly sales in the USA? i.e. if PS4 is ahead on Amazon for the week then it is ahead nation-wide? Because comparing weekly for week 1 and VGC's November week 1 for USA they show oppoosite results.

VGC gives Xb one the win by a pretty decent margin
XOne 148,367
PS4 129,272

But the final week 1 rankings (with bundles on pre-order removed) on Amazon give a very different picture
#14 PS4 CoD
#20 PS4 NDC
#29 XBO Gears
#43 XBO 3 Games
#51 XBO Madden
#82 XBO + Kinect + 3 Games
#92 XBO Halo 5

2 PS4 skus in the top 20, the top Xb one sku is #29. There are a lot more Xb one skus in the list, but we know from historical NPD results that it's really just the top ranking skus that predict the actual US sales picture.

IMO Amazon is probably fairly reliable on the weeklies, though perhaps not quite as reliable as the monthlies, and that a very clear win for a console in a given week means a high probability that globally in the USA that console sold the most.

We know this isn't going to be the case when a significant pre-order bundle is releasing in a certain week, so Halo 5 didn't win the Amazon week on the week it released, but the pre-orders clearly put Xb one over the top. But the week all the CoD bundles come home to roost and PS4 doesn't get the win on VGS even though actual Amazon sales for the week puts PS4 ahead AND there are all those CoD pre-ordered bundles coming in.

Thats what i said in the us sales thread for cod week, just in much fewer words :)



2008ProchargedGT said:
binary solo said:

PS4 has 2 skus in the top 10! Even though Xb one has the 3rd and 4th placed skus, their placement in the chart makes it hard not to come to the conclusion that right now PS4 is actually selling 2:1 over Xb one on Amazon. If it isn't it must be damned close to it.

When it comes to the weekly rankings, do people think they accurately represent the over all weekly sales in the USA? i.e. if PS4 is ahead on Amazon for the week then it is ahead nation-wide? Because comparing weekly for week 1 and VGC's November week 1 for USA they show oppoosite results.

VGC gives Xb one the win by a pretty decent margin
XOne 148,367
PS4 129,272

But the final week 1 rankings (with bundles on pre-order removed) on Amazon give a very different picture
#14 PS4 CoD
#20 PS4 NDC
#29 XBO Gears
#43 XBO 3 Games
#51 XBO Madden
#82 XBO + Kinect + 3 Games
#92 XBO Halo 5

2 PS4 skus in the top 20, the top Xb one sku is #29. There are a lot more Xb one skus in the list, but we know from historical NPD results that it's really just the top ranking skus that predict the actual US sales picture.

IMO Amazon is probably fairly reliable on the weeklies, though perhaps not quite as reliable as the monthlies, and that a very clear win for a console in a given week means a high probability that globally in the USA that console sold the most.

We know this isn't going to be the case when a significant pre-order bundle is releasing in a certain week, so Halo 5 didn't win the Amazon week on the week it released, but the pre-orders clearly put Xb one over the top. But the week all the CoD bundles come home to roost and PS4 doesn't get the win on VGS even though actual Amazon sales for the week puts PS4 ahead AND there are all those CoD pre-ordered bundles coming in.

Thats what i said in the us sales thread for cod week, just in much fewer words :)

Are you saying I write too much?



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

What ever happened to the fool's edition? I don't follow these threads as much and can't remember when it disappeared



BraLoD said:
2 bundle at the top 10 or around it for so long, that's quite hard to happen.

But at least we know CoD is flopping on the PS4, all those bundles selling like hotcakes should surely have Sony really concerned about their marketing deals choice... LOL, way to go.

This is actually flaming already, it's made on purpose. When even your nickname gaves you up and you keep coming back for more and more on the same subject, focused, even proving to be as ridiculous as it can get where it seems to be actually not even intention of reasoning before posting, it's pretty clear it's intentional, it's flaming on its purpose.


And remember some x1 software deal where every buyer bought a game.  That was the only reason the software was doing better that period. 



NDC at number 1 right now. Is there some kind of deal going on?