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Bye Bye Pikachu 3 25.00%
 
Yokai Who? 5 41.67%
 
... 3 25.00%
 
Yup, we're at the end times. 1 8.33%
 
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archer9234 said:
outlawauron said:

I mean this in the kindest way possible, but Pokemon has been recycled with each and every season. There are small changes, but it's still the same formula. It largely doesn't matter as both shows are targeted at young children whom don't care about the complexity of the plot very much.

Why didn't that work for Digimon. And fell apart, at season 4. By this logic. All kids shows are incappable of being cancelled. Very few shows become an icon. The rest just die off. And don't have a real lasting apeal.

Well, Digimon never had the popularity of Pokemon. It wasn't close. They just came out at the same time in the West.

I wasn't arguing that kids shows can't be cancelled, but recycling ideas or simple plot is usually not the reason.



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outlawauron said:
archer9234 said:
outlawauron said:

I mean this in the kindest way possible, but Pokemon has been recycled with each and every season. There are small changes, but it's still the same formula. It largely doesn't matter as both shows are targeted at young children whom don't care about the complexity of the plot very much.

Why didn't that work for Digimon. And fell apart, at season 4. By this logic. All kids shows are incappable of being cancelled. Very few shows become an icon. The rest just die off. And don't have a real lasting apeal.

Well, Digimon never had the popularity of Pokemon. It wasn't close. They just came out at the same time in the West.

I wasn't arguing that kids shows can't be cancelled, but recycling ideas or simple plot is usually not the reason.

Digimon equaled and beat Pokemon in ratings in the series depeartment a lot of times. Digimon didn't come out at the same time. It came out during late season 2 of Pokemon. And Digimon had a opening. Season 2 of Digimon was happening when Season 3 of Pokemon was starting to screw up the show. Monster Rancher also exsisted during this time. That eventually died too. Yokai Watch has more of a challenge.

It's not an established show as Pokemon. No matter the age of the child. Pokemon is known by older people. So it gets easier passes. Yokai is only the games and a starting show. A starting show. In the era of declining interests, in TV networks. Which is what I base its future to be on. But it won't replace Pokemon, in the long run. I'd say it will be on the level of Bayblade. It does fine. And continues to exsist. But won't reach Pokemon's icon status. It just can't with these new factors.



pokoko said:
Barozi said:
Just saw some recent rating figures for animes in Japan and Yokai barely made top 10. Not bad for sure, but doubtful that it will be as big as Pokemon.

Yokai Watch is pretty much always in the top 10 and often in 7th place.  The reason that's significant is that the top 6 anime pretty much never change.  No new anime is going to beat One Piece, Detective Conan, Crayon Shin-chan, and the like.  You're probably talking about the week that Pokemon XY's final episode edged out Yokai Watch by one place but that's unusual.

In terms of Japan only, I think it's fair to say that Yokai Watch is bigger than Pokemon right now.  Long run, I wouldn't bet on it, but who knows.

As far as the rest of the world, he's just trying to talk up his brand.  We have no idea if it's going to go over in the west or not.

i want Level 5 to do well. They're my favorite game developer but I don't think this will do well at all in the west. I just don't see how it could appeal here.



pokoko said:
Barozi said:
Just saw some recent rating figures for animes in Japan and Yokai barely made top 10. Not bad for sure, but doubtful that it will be as big as Pokemon.

Yokai Watch is pretty much always in the top 10 and often in 7th place.  The reason that's significant is that the top 6 anime pretty much never change.  No new anime is going to beat One Piece, Detective Conan, Crayon Shin-chan, and the like.  You're probably talking about the week that Pokemon XY's final episode edged out Yokai Watch by one place but that's unusual.

In terms of Japan only, I think it's fair to say that Yokai Watch is bigger than Pokemon right now.  Long run, I wouldn't bet on it, but who knows.

As far as the rest of the world, he's just trying to talk up his brand.  We have no idea if it's going to go over in the west or not.

Nope a much more recent week.
http://www.anime2you.de/news/56931/die-japanischen-anime-quoten-im-ueberblick-kw-422015/



Barozi said:
pokoko said:

Yokai Watch is pretty much always in the top 10 and often in 7th place.  The reason that's significant is that the top 6 anime pretty much never change.  No new anime is going to beat One Piece, Detective Conan, Crayon Shin-chan, and the like.  You're probably talking about the week that Pokemon XY's final episode edged out Yokai Watch by one place but that's unusual.

In terms of Japan only, I think it's fair to say that Yokai Watch is bigger than Pokemon right now.  Long run, I wouldn't bet on it, but who knows.

As far as the rest of the world, he's just trying to talk up his brand.  We have no idea if it's going to go over in the west or not.

Nope a much more recent week.
http://www.anime2you.de/news/56931/die-japanischen-anime-quoten-im-ueberblick-kw-422015/

Ah.  I thought you specifically meant 10th place.  Kindaichi, Dragon Ball, and Yokai Watch shuffle around frequently.



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Pokemon's been running for so long already that I'd expect people are more easilly to jump into something more fresh. But, if we look at Digimon, that was supposed to be a "Pokemon killer" and how did it turn out.

Something new might gather the interest of people, but once the series start to recycle itself (that will happen sooner or later), we'll see how the popularity will hold.



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