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Conina on 24 October 2015
Normchacho said:
hudsoniscool said:
Ill be pist if come halo 6 I gotta play against people using keyboard and mouse.


Jesus, I never thought of that...how do they balance the games for controllers and keyboards?

Where is the problem? Who opens a match can decide, which input methods are allowed (m/k only, gamepad only, m/k + gamepad allowed). Matches can be filtered for allowed input devices. Players can't change their input device when they are in a match.

In racing games like Forza: (m/k only, gamepad only, steering wheel only, m/k + gamepad, m/k + steering wheel, gamepad + steering wheel, all 3 allowed). Matches can be filtered for allowed input devices. Players can't change their input device when they are in a match.



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Ruler on 24 October 2015
Justagamer said:
I think sony will too. The rumor of sony updating the ps4 with refreshed hardware. There isn't a better way to do that for either company than a pc style box.


Thats not the same, the OS is still PlayStation, and it will still support physical media and the PS exclusives are only aviable for PlayStation



Why i left PC gaming

 

(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread

avrwc2 on 24 October 2015

Microsoft loves to nickel and dime their customers. 

Want Wi-Fi added to your Xbox 360? We got that and it will only cost you an arm and half a leg. Want a bigger HDD? lol, okay, how about something 3 times more expensive than the 'market' price for something equivalent? Want to see movie too? Sure, there's a format nobody wants (hint, not Blu-ray) that will set you back only a couple hundred $$$ and buy it quick coz we're going to drop it and stop supporting it before you can figure out how to spell 'useless'. Or, lately on the Xbone, "yes, our gamepads are the best and they were always the best but if you don't mind spending a couple hundred bucks, here's our super-gamepad because s___ers are born every sencod so order one immediately".

The next Xbox? Sure,  you're right about subsidized price. The NSA/CIA/FBI... whatever are really, really interested in what's going on in your living room so of course they are going to subsidize 'eyes and ears'. So expect a Kinect, maybe not named that way. I agree that i's going to be mostly a 'service' with a wearable microphone/bodycam/motion seensor but it's got to be inifintely upgradeable because of revenue stream. The 'standard' config won't do much. So, of course, you will be able to play most games at the very lowest settings but you will always be able to buy upgrades that would move you up on the settings scale. And, of course, the upgrades you invested your savings to upgrade to maybe 'medium settings' will probably quickly become 'lowest settings' for the next batch of games which is okay because you can always buy more upgrades.



Soonerman on 24 October 2015

I agree but it won't be in 2 years. Its coming out in November and its called Surface Book.



endimion on 24 October 2015

Well duh.... Console standalone will be as dead as feature phones within the next decade... Anybody who will not shift properly towards a more streamlined hardware and service base portal will die of a slow death...
PS4 XBO WiiU are some of the last iterations of their breed...
And in that regard MS is and always as been in a better position than Sony and Nintendo... And their vision accepted or not was, is, and will be on point... Now I'm not saying they'll lead it but like many many business model and concepts in the past they'll pave the way...
There is a reason MS is doing so well year after, decades after decades whether people like it or not... Just like other giants in the field...



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Conina on 24 October 2015
Soonerman said:
I agree but it won't be in 2 years. Its coming out in November and its called Surface Book.

Sure, a laptop which costs $1500 - $3200 and only reaches 14 fps in Metro Last Light in 1080p in its maximum expansion stage (i7) totally targets the same audience as home consoles like PS4 + XBO for $300 - $400, which can keep up almost flawless 60 fps in that game.



jason1637 on 24 October 2015
Guitarguy said:
darkenergy said:
Player2 said:
jason1637 said:
Player2 said:
NiKKoM said:
It will be Steam but called Xbox Live and you can access it from any device

I don't want Microsoft games in my Nintendo consoles. If they want to go third party they'd better go do it somewhere else.


So you want less support and want nintendo to keep getting ignored. Nintendo NEEDS third party. TGhey cant survive anymore without it.

No they don't. Third party support never played a major role in the sucess of Nintendo systems regardless of how good it was. What they have to do is to stop messing up things.

Besides, if Microsoft becomes something like Steam they'll be completely dispensable: Plenty of Xbox One exclusives are third party games because Microsoft doesnt have big enough franchises nor makes enought games.Other digital distribution channels will offer the same third party games Microsoft would, plus more exclusives.


Wut? Do you know the definition of third parties? 

Also MS has Quantum Break, Scalebound, Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, other franchise they have.

To be fair, Quantum Break and Scalebound are third party exclusives. They are not made by Microsoft's first or second party studios. A third party title does not automatically mean multi-platform.


Halo 5, Gears 4, Forza, Sea of Thieves etc are first/second party titles for Microsoft.


Well if we use that logic then beyo 2 w101 and star fox are third party exclusives to wiiu.



Guitarguy on 24 October 2015
jason1637 said:
Guitarguy said:
darkenergy said:
Player2 said:
jason1637 said:
Player2 said:
NiKKoM said:
It will be Steam but called Xbox Live and you can access it from any device

I don't want Microsoft games in my Nintendo consoles. If they want to go third party they'd better go do it somewhere else.


So you want less support and want nintendo to keep getting ignored. Nintendo NEEDS third party. TGhey cant survive anymore without it.

No they don't. Third party support never played a major role in the sucess of Nintendo systems regardless of how good it was. What they have to do is to stop messing up things.

Besides, if Microsoft becomes something like Steam they'll be completely dispensable: Plenty of Xbox One exclusives are third party games because Microsoft doesnt have big enough franchises nor makes enought games.Other digital distribution channels will offer the same third party games Microsoft would, plus more exclusives.


Wut? Do you know the definition of third parties? 

Also MS has Quantum Break, Scalebound, Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, other franchise they have.

To be fair, Quantum Break and Scalebound are third party exclusives. They are not made by Microsoft's first or second party studios. A third party title does not automatically mean multi-platform.


Halo 5, Gears 4, Forza, Sea of Thieves etc are first/second party titles for Microsoft.


Well if we use that logic then beyo 2 w101 and star fox are third party exclusives to wiiu.


The first two are third party exclusives to the Wii U whilst Star Fox is a third party developer making a game based on Nintendo IP. Bit of a gray area. 343i working on Halo 5 to me is first party since they are owned by Microsoft, where Remedy working on Quantum break is closer to a third party exclusive.



Dusk on 24 October 2015
Soundwave said:

 

Yup that's what I think, I think MS is going to back out of propietary, fixed function consoles and simply make their own mini-PC next time, like a SteamBox, but it will run Windows of course and it will be tailored to compete against Steambox. 

Will be digital-only/centric like Steam is. "XBox" will simply be the branding for the device, and it will have a subsidized price closer to cost so it can under cut Steambox prices. It will have tons of games and all developer support from day 1 because it runs Windows already, so every PC game ever made will be able to run on it. MS will sell these games through their XBox Live storefront. 

And I think this will be out by 2018. It was always kind of the inevitable destiny of the XBox brand anyway I think. 


I fully agree. I just wrote something similar to your idea in another thread. I actually thought you might had stolen my idea but then I realized this came out 10 hours earlier than what I wrote lol. You certainly got there first.

Great minds think alike??? lol. 



Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

Player2 on 24 October 2015
darkenergy said:
Player2 said:
jason1637 said:
 


So you want less support and want nintendo to keep getting ignored. Nintendo NEEDS third party. TGhey cant survive anymore without it.

No they don't. Third party support never played a major role in the sucess of Nintendo systems regardless of how good it was. What they have to do is to stop messing up things.

Besides, if Microsoft becomes something like Steam they'll be completely dispensable: Plenty of Xbox One exclusives are third party games because Microsoft doesnt have big enough franchises nor makes enought games.Other digital distribution channels will offer the same third party games Microsoft would, plus more exclusives.


Wut? Do you know the definition of third parties? 

Also MS has Quantum Break, Scalebound, Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, other franchise they have.

Okay, "games developed by external studios." Is that correct now?

I don't think those games four you listed prove that MS makes enough games (we don't even know in which year Sea of Thieves will be released) nor count as big franchises, but you can make a prediction thread if you think they do.

And why do you have to mess with my spelling? "enought"? "doesnt"? Geez, those native speakers...