Lawlight said:
Conegamer said:
Well for starts I don't think anyone, regardless of their gender, sex, ethnicity etc. should be attacked or abused because of who they are. So quite simply a little respect is all that really matters at the end of the day. There's no point attacking someone just because they're different to you if you ask me!
Though ofcourse the whole connection to videogames is a non issue anyway for the most part. But that's not this topic IMO.
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How is that specifically related to women? This applies to anyone.
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What he said are basically the core values of feminism. If you think that applies to everyone than you think feminism applies to everyone. Feminism, despite it's somewhat misleading name, is not about women per se. It's about equality. For erveryone. Regardless of sex, gender, sexual orientation or race.
Feminism aknowleges mysogynoism juat as much as misandrism and labels both as wrong. Sadly this is often misunderstood by supporters and detractors of feminism alike. There's nothing more annoying than self-appointed feminists spouting misandrist babble.
The thing is, 'we need to fight misogyny' in just about any context should not be a controversial standpoint. It should be a no-brainer. Just as much as 'we need to fight misandry' or 'we need to fight racism' should be a no-brainer.
As for GG, at this point sadly the movement is undivorceable from the horrible things it's loudest minority did, as far as the public concience is concerned. Whenever GG is brought up by the mainstream Media it's the harrassment and mysogynistic tendencies that parts of the movement did display, that are discussed. Overshadowing, the more serious issues GG was trying to raise awareness for. But labeling the mainstream media or the left wing, as bullies because they take a stance against bulliyng and by proxy pretending that the harrassment didn't happen and the whole GG movement is just a misunderstood part of gaming culture doesn't help either. If you sympathise with a movement, you have to be able to examine it critically and distance yourself clearly from the shit they did wrong in the past in order to do it better in the future. Otherwise your movement will die a slow and muddled death. No one benefits.
Although I would argue that, while mysogyonism was definively also present in the GG harrassment campaings, the fact that these campaings even happened, is more to do with general problems of the internet- and perhaps gamerculture. Death- and rapethreats are much too easliy thrown around, mob mentality and bulliyng happens way too easily. Male devs have been harrassed just as bad before. And to be at the recieving end of such a shitstorm, especially if your adress gets leaked, has to be fucking scary for just about anyone.