ohmylanta1003 said:
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Then do that and move on..... It is not going to happen


ohmylanta1003 said:
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Then do that and move on..... It is not going to happen


rolltide101x said:
lol the guy asking for split-screen on an (non-coop) FPS in late 2015 is calling someone else "out of touch" that is gold. |
OMG!!! SO FUNNY!!! LATE 2015!!! I MUST BE SUCH A DUMBASS! What does the current date have to do anything? I'm glad you addressed my points though. Not that you would be able to.
I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.
rolltide101x said:
Then do that and move on..... |
So you do or do not want to take the bet? How about you stop only responding to one sentence of my posts?
Edit: And as much fun as it is to argue with someone that can only string together a few words at a time, I need to head to class.
I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.
ohmylanta1003 said:
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Seriously dude for all you know it is impossible to do from a technicial stand point. The PS4/XBOne CPU are pretty underpowered cutting the framerate down to 30 FPS does not mean it will take 50% off the CPU in fact I can assure you it will not and I have never taken any bet and do not intend to.
or do you suggest that the gimp the game for the rest of us to take pressure off the cpu so you can play splitscreen? Either way I am out this convo is not going anywhere constructive.


ohmylanta1003 said:
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It has been done in an era where assets weren't as expensive or important. This gen is not the last gen, and there are no valid comparisons to be made here between them. If that's all you're going on it shows how ignorant of the industry you are, with all due respect.
I only bet in certain terms (I'm talking permaban here, I don't scrub around), and I'm not making any bets until I hear your full argument out. So make one. I want to understand your logic before I go into anything as definitive. So if you're as certain as you are that something as dated and dead as splitscreen shooters will come back, explain it to me so we can have a genuine discussion first instead of me having to point out my wording every time you misinterpret me and us having a spitting contest.
You should check out my YouTube channel, The Golden Bolt! I review all types of video games, both classic and modern, and I also give short flyover reviews of the free games each month on PlayStation Plus to tell you if they're worth downloading. After all, the games may be free, but your time is valuable!
rolltide101x said:
Seriously dude for all you know it is impossible to do from a technicial stand point. The PS4/XBOne CPU are pretty underpowered cutting the framerate down to 30 FPS does not mean it will take 50% off the CPU in fact I can assure you it will not and I have never taken any bet and do not intend to.
or do you suggest that the gimp the game for the rest of us to take pressure off the cpu so you can play splitscreen? Either way I am out this convo is not going anywhere constructive. |
Of course it won't take 50% off the CPU. It wouldn't have to. I'm not saying gimp everyone else's experience. Just the people playing splitscreen. And of course you don't want to bet. Just like the last 3 or 4 people I've tried to bet with. They say something and then don't stand by it.
I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.
DivinePaladin said:
It has been done in an era where assets weren't as expensive or important. This gen is not the last gen, and there are no valid comparisons to be made here between them. If that's all you're going on it shows how ignorant of the industry you are, with all due respect.
I only bet in certain terms (I'm talking permaban here, I don't scrub around), and I'm not making any bets until I hear your full argument out. So make one. I want to understand your logic before I go into anything as definitive. So if you're as certain as you are that something as dated and dead as splitscreen shooters will come back, explain it to me so we can have a genuine discussion first instead of me having to point out my wording every time you misinterpret me and us having a spitting contest. |
You did it again. Pointed out my reading comprehension. I haven't misinterpreted one thing you've said. You just don't like the fact that I have valid points that you can't counter with any real evidence. "This gen is not the last gen" is a great argument. I don't know why I didn't think of that one sooner.
As for my reason, splitscreen has been done in the past for many shooters (online and local) and there are tons of FPSs that release each year. To think that at least one of them won't have splitscreen sounds a little absurd to me. And because I pointed out that something has been done in the past makes me ignorant? That statement seems a little outlandish. And please, don't pretend like you're respecting me.
I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.
ohmylanta1003 said:
As for my reason, splitscreen has been done in the past for many shooters (online and local) and there are tons of FPSs that release each year. To think that at least one of them won't have splitscreen sounds a little absurd to me. And because I pointed out that something has been done in the past makes me ignorant? That statement seems a little outlandish. And please, don't pretend like you're respecting me. |
You continue to act as if the past is relevant to this generation, though, and that argument doesn't hold water. We had three casual shooters last gen that did split screen: CoD offline, with a resolution cut, Halo both online and offline (though I believe 4 cut the splitscreen from 4 to 2 for online, I could be wrong about that), and Gears of War offline. Two of those as far as I know have confirmed no splitscreen (I don't keep up on CoD), and the third is likely not to based on Spencer's argument for Halo. Currently, zero games offer split screen and online hybrid on next gen, and I'll reiterate the reason since you want to keep acting like it's invalid. If you want evidence, the fact that there's a fucking goose egg in support of your desire so far is evidence enough. People within the industry have said it cannot be done without compromising most of the game, and even then it's a gamble if it'll even work or not. And again, not enough people use it for it to be worth the effort. If you want to doubt that go right ahead buddy, but do not act like you're the reasonable person in this thread when time and again everybody here is telling you it cannot be done without huge losses to the quality of the game. To assume that "it can't be that hard," to paraphrase you, is ignorant. You yourself, no, you're probably not ignorant. But that thought process is. There are no trends to be followed here, and if you really want to compare stuff between generations, the previous gen only goes to show that couch Co-op has been slowly dying for nine years now.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have splitscreen online in this game. It'd be wonderful and I'd buy a second controller if it was a thing. But I understand that it cannot be done. The best in the industry at optimizing games over at Treyarch and Bungie haven't done it, so what makes you think DICE of all companies could do it? Let's be reasonable.
I'm trying to pull back a bit because I feel I came out of the gates too hot in this thread, and I usually am more respectful so I apologize for that, but there is still zero chance of any online FPS, and more likely any game at all (barring some indie miracle that is made specifically to fill this gap) having splitscreen online. Period. We're two years into what will be no longer than a 6 or 7 year cycle and we've seen nothing of the sort even hinted at.
You should check out my YouTube channel, The Golden Bolt! I review all types of video games, both classic and modern, and I also give short flyover reviews of the free games each month on PlayStation Plus to tell you if they're worth downloading. After all, the games may be free, but your time is valuable!
DivinePaladin said:
You continue to act as if the past is relevant to this generation, though, and that argument doesn't hold water. We had three casual shooters last gen that did split screen: CoD offline, with a resolution cut, Halo both online and offline (though I believe 4 cut the splitscreen from 4 to 2 for online, I could be wrong about that), and Gears of War offline. Two of those as far as I know have confirmed no splitscreen (I don't keep up on CoD), and the third is likely not to based on Spencer's argument for Halo. Currently, zero games offer split screen and online hybrid on next gen, and I'll reiterate the reason since you want to keep acting like it's invalid. If you want evidence, the fact that there's a fucking goose egg in support of your desire so far is evidence enough. People within the industry have said it cannot be done without compromising most of the game, and even then it's a gamble if it'll even work or not. And again, not enough people use it for it to be worth the effort. If you want to doubt that go right ahead buddy, but do not act like you're the reasonable person in this thread when time and again everybody here is telling you it cannot be done without huge losses to the quality of the game. To assume that "it can't be that hard," to paraphrase you, is ignorant. You yourself, no, you're probably not ignorant. But that thought process is. There are no trends to be followed here, and if you really want to compare stuff between generations, the previous gen only goes to show that couch Co-op has been slowly dying for nine years now.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have splitscreen online in this game. It'd be wonderful and I'd buy a second controller if it was a thing. But I understand that it cannot be done. The best in the industry at optimizing games over at Treyarch and Bungie haven't done it, so what makes you think DICE of all companies could do it? Let's be reasonable.
I'm trying to pull back a bit because I feel I came out of the gates too hot in this thread, and I usually am more respectful so I apologize for that, but there is still zero chance of any online FPS, and more likely any game at all (barring some indie miracle that is made specifically to fill this gap) having splitscreen online. Period. We're two years into what will be no longer than a 6 or 7 year cycle and we've seen nothing of the sort even hinted at. |
While I think it's hard to say for certain that no FPSs this gen will have splitscreen, I see your points and understand where you are coming from. Let's hope that they somehow find a way to accomplish splitscreen in the future. At least you weren't suggesting I go and buy a second rig, lol.
I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.
Whoops, forgot "likely." Yeah, it's not an impossibility, just close based on what we've seen over the last decade. If Halo hadn't caved I would've held out more hope honestly but that was the last hurrah in my eyes.
You should check out my YouTube channel, The Golden Bolt! I review all types of video games, both classic and modern, and I also give short flyover reviews of the free games each month on PlayStation Plus to tell you if they're worth downloading. After all, the games may be free, but your time is valuable!